Moskoselkatan tents from sweden.(available in the UK through LIGHT MY FIRE in Edinburgh. The best you can get, all my other tents are now redundant.If you live in your tent for long periods and want plenty of room,a source of heat, to be able to stand up, shower inside the tent, dry wet gear, put up/take down the tent in 5 mins, this is for you. It has saved me reverting to paying for accommodation after travelling for weeks in terrible weather, I have remained dry, warm and comfortable from Kirkness in Northern Norway to Italy. the tent packs up to the size of a 2/3 man dome tent weighs 6kg (or 3kg lightweight version) will sleep 5, sit 8 people. you can light a fire in it or use a heatpal heater. the floor zips back to let you stand up and have a wash down inside out of the weather, there is a washing line round the top vent to dry wet clothing if you have a heater/fire going. It easily withstood severe gales and storms in northern arctic area and is nothing less than superb bit of kit. All tents have bad points, I am struggling to find them with this one possibly size weight are worst but the size weight is easily overcome if you arrange the packing of your bike accordingly.

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jake

Hi Adventure950,
I've just looked at this thread and been checking out the Tipitent web site. This looks like a wonderfull product and the praise you give suggests you think its well worth the price tag.Having lived with/in this tent could you please answer a couple of questions.
1. Is it necessary to buy the inner tent with the Tipi?
2. Then do you have to choose a floor to go with it?
3. How good is the protection from bugs/mossies?
4. Do you find it possible to carry a panheater along with every thing else?

I know that this is an old thread but I would appreciate any info or discussion that comes from those who've used this tent as the sales pitch is all that I've so far been able to read. I'm planning a trip to Norway this summer and am looking for a more spacious option than the 2 man tent previously used.
Cheers. Les.

Hi mate, I still use the moskolkatan all the time even for one night trips. Several people who have seen it in use have also gone and bought one. If you buy the canvas one you do not need the liner. the floor is needed but cheaper options are now available but you could make your own floor, Mosies can get in but depending on the model that you buy they do have plenty of netting etc to keep the buggers out. The tents are designed and used in northern sweden so are very good for the climate. Drop me an e mail and I can ring you or let you know my number to ring me if you need any more info. I will be at the hu meet in derby if your there so you can see the tent up and running. They are pricy but I would not do without it now. Weight with floor is almost 8kg and still rolls up the size of a large 3 man dome tent.

http://www.wolfcamper.com/



Also fireproof, but cheaper then moskolkatan.

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Freek (NL)

Hi guys,

I was looking at these tipi tents, they look fantastic. I have a question regarding the floor. All photos show them planted on the ground, are they provided with some sort of flooring (maybezipped into the main tent?) ??? I'm thinking here in case of rain etc...? How does it work?
Thanks,
Maria

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If you mean the Wolfcamper, then no they do not have a floor. But you can either buy one as an accessory or buy the inner tent that has a sewn in groundsheet and covers approximately half of the inside space. Both are about £54. I recently received a catalogue from the company as I was interested as well. I'm am tempted by the price, but hesitant because I read one report from a Danish supplier who cast some doubt about the quality of these tents.

I would be interested in hearing a review from anybody out there who has one of these tents. Anybody?

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I've got the Wolfcamper 8. I've not used it super extensively but did spend 2 weeks in Norway in it last Summer and it was great. The things I like about it is I can stand up in it, I can light a fire in it, it's very quick to put up, I can get my bike in and I like seeing people's faces when I finally put the centre pole up and they see it's a tipi.

The one thing that annoyed me was that there are ties sewed into the seams to tie back the doors on the font and the back and in torential rain water leaks through the seam via the tie and drips off the end of the ties straight onto the inner tent (though it's water repellent). Some fabseal would probably sort this. Also, with the inner tent it comes to something like 10-12kg but on a GS it wasn't a problem even with loaded panniers and a girlfriend.

Also if it bothers you, having also seen mine in close company to the Moskoselkatan, I prefered the Moskoselkatan. I also think the floor of the Moskoselkatan (assuming it zips to the outer) would provde a cosier interior in the cold. That said, I think I paid about 300 quid from a chap who sells them on eBay compared to something like 1300 quid (this is off the top of my head, someone please correct me) for the Moskoselkatan. Actually, the bloke off of eBay was charging less for the tents than I could get it for if I bought it straight from the manufacturer given the exchange rate.

Anyway, in summary, I love it.

Hope that's of some help.

Thanks for feed back on the Wolfcamper 8!
I've just received the catalogue of the tipitents (aka Moskoselkatan) and they seem great. Adventur950 will have one at the HUBB meeting in Ripley and I can’t wait to see it! I like the concept of being able to stand up in the tent, by contrast with having to crawl in and out of a tent! I think for the tipitent you don't need the inner tent if they are in canevas. I spoke with someone from the shop that sell them in Edinbourgh and he confirmed the inner tent can be useful for insects but I think in hot weather the tent only would be enough, and maybe use a mosquito net... The cheapest tipitent canevas model is model Arran at 500 pounds. + adding the floor but that can be bought cheaper at wolf camper! The Arran 5 person weight 7.6kg which is not too bad at all!

Adventure950, which model do you use?

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Maria I use a arran canvas model (the lightweight nylon versions do get a lot of condensation so stick to canvas), I have however upgraded it by modifying most of it myself and it now has the smoke flap top section off a Tapp Varie this is adjustable from the inside which is very useful on this type of tent, This only cost £35.00 to buy the top section then some mucking about to get it to work. Also I have never really had a problem with insects inside the tent even with the arran smoke flap top I dont have and never really felt that the inner tent is needed and the arran is the perfect base to start with these tents.( you can then modify them to suit your needs - EG extra vents, mosi netting etc etc. For info the floor does not zip into these tents it buttons in and is tensioned from the outside. Running water down a slope on a field can get in if you do not put the floor in right so care is needed and a bit of practice as well using the tent. Maria look me up at the meeting I have an orange and silver KTM 950 which will be parked next to my tent My wife and I arrive on Friday about lunchtime I hope. See you there.

Jake, thanks for response. The Arran was the one I was most tempted with. I will have an (admiring) look at your tent next weekend if you don't mind!
I'm also planning to get there at around lunch time on Friday and will be riding a black F650GS with big alu panniers and black top box, hubby riding a red TDM and soft luggage. See you there

Maria

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dont know what this lot are like

http://www.hike-lite.co.uk/acatalog/GoLite_Hex.html

anyone knows of them ????

It looks pretty good on paper with the exception that as with most gore / nylon tents the condensation factor is high, in a Tipi style tent this usually means a lot of small drips onto you and your gear - this is a problem with the moskol tents in the lightweight version which uses a very high quality ripstop breathable material but it simply is not breathable enough to stop condensation in some conditions so you need to use a inner tent. the canvas models are much better at breathing and also more strong when up more so in very high winds where the material does not flap about so much in the wind and so feels more secure. canvas also means if you light a fire in it one of the tipi great features it wont get burn holes like ripstop nylon can.However as an alternative to some tents this looks good but how high is it, how roomy inside, can you stand up comfortably, etc etc. The moskol has the dissadvantage of weight at almost 8 kg. Its not superlight but it can be split up between two bikes if a couple are travelling together but for me I still cannot find a tent that does as well in almost all situations as the moskol.
Bad points , Weight and size when compared to mini mountain tents, can not be put up on rock surface as its not freestanding. cant really think of many other bad points to be honest.

Hey Jake! I thought I would let you know!
I just ordered my own Arran + floor last night! I went to view both the Arran and Varrie near Reading. There is a small Internet based company selling them and they kindly agreed to show me both tents in their back garden. The Varrie is good but as you said it is easy to do few modif in the Arran. What I plan to do is put mosquito net in the top opening area (as yours I think). That should be enough! It is the perfect tent. I will use it for my 2 weeks holiday in September and for those interested, I will put some comments/photos either here or in my blog, when I come back!
Cheers!

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I've just bought one along with the inner tent or nest as it's called.

I've researched tipi tents for a while and decided that the weight and price advantage of the Golite made it a prime contender. Then, a week ago, I saw them on sale online for £135 and so that swung it. The inner was an extra £80.

I'm off to tour around France for a month in September, so I'll let you know how well the tent fared.

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Back from France now, where it was very wet. So the tent had some pretty bad conditions to test it.

Straight to the point it leaked badly throught the vent stitching. So much so that there was nowhere to place my bag where it would not catch the drips. In the end I had to hang two sliced open bin liners to cover the vents.

My fault I guess for not giving the seams a coat of silicone, but at tent that by no means cheap, should have already been treated I reckon. So, a big thumbs down for details to Golite.

On the plus side, and it's a big plus, the spaciousness of the tent has changed my experience of camping. It's big enough inside to have all your kit spread out and to move about with ease. I found I slept easier (in the dry weather anyway) as a result--but that could also be down to the comfort of my newly aquired Exped down mat as well.

A coat of silicone on the stitching should sort out the leaks and then I'll have a really decent, roomy tent.

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