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Old 28 Apr 2007
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Seems those nasty criminals dont always register their guns
That recurring pro-gun argument just doesn't stick with me. As does the self defence argument. Off course the really motivated people will go through the trouble of getting one. But they are in the "business" of having one and are not interested in petty crime. We're talking about every Tom, Dick and Harry having one.

As for self defence, how many times has anybody been in a situation they needed a gun? Most likely events you wouldn't even see anybody coming. Bugger that one time. Who's to say I couldn't get out of it without.
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I wonder, who could use a gun for self defence ?
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Miss America 1944 catches would-be theives
WAYNESBURG, Ky., April 20 (UPI) -- Miss America 1944, now an 82-year-old Kentucky farmer, foiled thieves by shooting out one of their tires and holding them at gunpoint until police arrived.
"I didn't even think twice," Venus Ramey told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "I just went and did it. If they'd even dared come close to me, they'd be six feet under by now."

Ramey suspects that the three men she caught have been removing old farm equipment from her shed for some time and selling it for scrap. When she finally caught someone in the act, he said he was "scrapping" and promised to leave.

Ramey, balancing on her cane, pulled out her .38 revolver.

"I said, 'Oh, no you won't,' and I shot their tires so they couldn't leave," Ramey said.

Ramey, who had moved her truck to block theirs, held the three men until a passing motorist called 911 for her.

A native of Kentucky, Ramey spent her teenage years in Cincinnati and then moved east to try to get into show business. She was Miss America 1944, entering the pageant representing the District of Columbia.

She does not like to be asked if she "was" Miss America.

"I still am. You never live it down," she said before laughing. "There's only one in 1944 -- and I'm it."
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That recurring pro-gun argument just doesn't stick with me. As does the self defence argument. Off course the really motivated people will go through the trouble of getting one. But they are in the "business" of having one and are not interested in petty crime. We're talking about every Tom, Dick and Harry having one.

As for self defence, how many times has anybody been in a situation they needed a gun? Most likely events you wouldn't even see anybody coming. Bugger that one time. Who's to say I couldn't get out of it without.
I spent 6 years in law enforcement and firmly believe gun control does NOT work. At one time I worked in a super max prison and one of the inmates that was locked up 23 hours a day in a single cell made a zip gun and got some 9 mm ammo and fired it at some officers. BTW guns are NOT allowed in prisons even the officers are not allowd to have them in case an inmate gets ahold of it. Now if you cant keep guns out of a high security prison, how will you keep the criminals on the street from getting them?

here are some more facts from the US. BTW contrary to populer belief you cant just walk in to a gun store and buy a gun without a background check and usually have a waiting perioud. Also regulations vary from state to state. Now saying all that the cities with the strictest gun control in the US, New York, Chicago and Washington DC all have the highest murder and violant crime rate in the US. In the 1980's Miami was number one for years, then they passed a law allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons for self defense and the very year that went into effect the crime rate plummeted.

I know and have know more police officers than I can count, and never have I met one yet that thinks gun control laws will stop crime. In fact since we deal with criminals every day we KNOW it will have the opposite effect. The latest killing in virginia, guess what it is illegal to have guns on the school grounds. It used to be legal to have a firearm on collage grounds and just down the road from where that shooting took place severl years ago some idiot showd up to massacure a bunch of people. When he started shooting a CITIZEN pulled their legal firearm and killed the want to be murder so that insted of 30 people being killed only two were shot.

Here is an idea, why not make murder illegal? Oh wait it is, and that doesnt stop the crime. Also look at how well making drugs illegal is stopping drug use.

At the end of the day people that believe gun control works are well meaning but misinformed. Saying all tha NEVER EVER take you firearms accross borders, you are asking for troubel with the law there.
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Dear Kidcalavera,
Dont let a bit of slagging put you off posting on this most useful of forums, I think most people recognise you were just asking for advice. However, you admitted yourself in your original post that it would be a touchy subject so you shouldn't be surprised by reactions you may not like. Particularly on a subject involving weapons, as many travellers have a slight tendency towards hippy!
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I would advise any treveler not to carry a weapon in Central America. Frist, odds are you won't need it. For example, in order to carry a weapon in Guatemala, you need a permit. If you are caught by the authorities without a permit, you will be in trouble. Most local recreational motorcycle riders don't carry weapons.
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