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Mexico/Guatemala via Rio San Pedro.??

People have hopped a lancha in La Palma, MX and gone up river to El Naranjo, GT.
Looking on Google Earth, I see a clear road into GT that might or might not peter out before El Naranjo, but I can't find any info on this.

Anybody have good info on a road/trail/goat path?
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via Rio San Pedro

From El Naranjo it is now a perfectly paved highway east 138km across the Peten to La Libertad where it junctions with the highway to Santa Elena and Flores to the northeast , and south to Sayaxche ( ferrry across the Rio de la Pasion) and on to Coban.I investigated this rout e during Feb.'06 and did a post on it, relating to border crossings near Palenque .
They have been doing alot of paving in the Peten the last four years, now even the cross connection from La Libertad east to Sta .Ana on CA13 and the short road from that north from San Francisco to Sta. Elena are new asphalt paved.
The road from the border to El Naranjo is very tough, mostly mud track.,
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The road from the border to El Naranjo is very tough, mostly mud track.,
My question is whether there actually is a road all the way from the border to El Naranjo, rough or not. Much, but not all, can be seen on Google Earth.

Have you taken this road/trail yourself?
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Yes there is a road of a kind there , I only sniffed at both its ends , chickened out when I saw how it started at the nortwest end just outside the border village after the Mexican customs. The "main street " of the village was a mess of limestone bedrock stumps with mud between, then outisde the village it turned into a row of mudpuddles with 4wd tracks through them . They told me this was the case for the entire 25km to El NAranjo. I wa s alone and on a 1100GS on street tires and I had no desire to get mired and stuggle for hours
I returned to Mexico right there and took the long PAVED route to El Naranjo , via Chetumal and Belize and Flores . I discovered that the road from El Naranjo to the same border crossing is just as muddy,after the first 4km west of town. Here it actually had a set of bushes marking the wide right of way but again there were only four-wheeler tracks zigzagging around and through a string of mudholes as far as I could see up the track. It had just rained heavily in the week prior to my visit, and it may get drier sometime. If you are a skilled enduro rider on like equipment it will probably be easy for you if you are travelling with a group so that you can haul each other out of the mud.The road runs on fairly flat terrain in front of the Sierra Lacandon and it is mostly through black loamy and peaty soils. The road surface is simply the native soil cleared of brush, usefull for driving cattle to pastures. Most people going to Mexico her use the river lanchas for this reason. Hope this helps.
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Very good stuff!
Thanks.

What time of year were you there?
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Rio San Pedro

Was there early February this year . It was in the "dry season" but this region can get rain anytime of year ( the green forests and grasslands are dead give-aways for this) and I just hit it after a few particularly heavy days of downpour .The same storm had flooded over the Western Highway in Belize, the flood marks and debris were still evident when I passed there on my way to Flores. This is what turned the road, what I saw of it into the quagmire it was but obviously there had been some four wheeled traffic from El Naranjo to the border village, probably 4WD and high clearance pickup trucks with who knows how many winching and pushing helpers.For me , alone and on street tires it was too much of a risk, but like I said , if you are a good dirt rider and with some other riders ,it should be possible to struggle through, maybe it gets real easy once it dries out , the puddles can be bypassed and the grass in the road doesn't hide too many trenches.
The Mexican side of the border has nothing more than aduana terminal to do your paperwork and passport stamping, they close the border gates at night . The Guatemala side has no such service in the village, you have to do all your entry formalities in El Naranjo at the SAT office there on the main street.
El Naranjo has a bunch of accepable ,inexpensive small hotels, their main customer base is probably illegal emigrants on their way to Mexico.As you approach the border on te paved road from Tenosique you will see small groups of people dash off the road into the bushes as you get close to them. This is also the main passenger load for the lanchas on the river
Also,there is a gravel road north of the Rio San Pedro ferry in El Naranjo, it goes off into the wilds where they are doing oil exploration, the same fields as are tapped in Tabasco , and thes e workers also come to town.Other than that it is a frontier town for ranchers and small farmers trying to set up
In Tenosique there are also plenty of hotels to stay as you stage for this trek.
If try to you go this route do let us know how it worked out.
Good luck and have fun.
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