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New Wolfman panniers seem a decent size. Wolfman Motorcycle Luggage: Rocky Mountain Saddle Bags Problem remains of straps over the seats when riding two up. Like to see a set on an 11XX GS even so.
have you tried putting the straps under the seat?

I have done this for my last two bikes, not so much for pillion comfort (I never carry pillions, I cut the pegs off so I can't), but for added safety, the panniers cannot be lifted off.

Are there many bikes that cannot fit the straps underneath the saddle?
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have you tried putting the straps under the seat?
No I haven't. They are on my short list to buy, and of course there is a rack under the pillion seat on my 1100GS which would be ideal to strap across, but it looks like the front strap would be fouled by both the seat overhang and possibly the catch. There is an adaptor plate by Windingroads to do away with the need to strap across the bike but it is extra complication.

If I'm travelling, I'm nearly always two up on this bike which is why I need the space and also need to keep the pillion seat on the bike. If I was anywhere near a dealer I'd take the bike down to try 'em out.
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Bags with buckles
Hello!

Since you are talking about soft bags and I don't want to open a new thread I will just ask here if it is ok. Tommorow I am setting of on a 3day trip with revised packing list to give it a try. But there is a slight concern. Do you people trust the plastic buckles on the soft bags?

My bags secure to the seat base plate with 2 buckles each of the panniers. But this year they are a bit heavier than last year as I also have some tools with me and more clothes. I am affraid that these buckles will give up on any rough surfaces. Here is the picture of the buckels:


I have also secured them to the racks with 1 cargo net and 1 bungee cord per bag.


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In my opinion the elastic bungy and cargo net will have little effect in keeping your bag in place. Elastics are more useful to temporarily hold down light things like gloves or maps.

If you don't trust the pannier clip buckles to take the weight (and I can see why you would think this) back it up with a cam lock strap or even just a belt. Done up tight that will help pull the weight against the rack and take the stress off the clip buckle.

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I have a lot of Kriega gear. Probably enough that I should go to meetings about it.

I took a very long look at the Overlander setup - and then bought a set of Magadans. I'm pretty happy it was the right choice for me.



(I'm less happy that I only got to use them for a week and a half of my trip because I broke the bike they were attached to, but that's another story)
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If you don't trust the pannier clip buckles to take the weight (and I can see why you would think this) back it up with a cam lock strap or even just a belt. Done up tight that will help pull the weight against the rack and take the stress off the clip buckle.

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I would just add to get really good quality cam operated straps; I've had one of the cams fall apart in my hands when put under tension and another one became slack very quickly, far more quickly than I anticipated (I was checking the luggage pretty frequently) - the slack one became so slack that it rubbed on the rear tyre and disintegrated before I found it.

Whatever I use, carry a couple of spare is my rule of thumb.

Some people do rate "Rok straps" for bungie type straps - they might be worth considering?
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I would just add to get really good quality cam operated straps; I've had one of the cams fall apart in my hands when put under tension and another one became slack very quickly, far more quickly than I anticipated (I was checking the luggage pretty frequently) - the slack one became so slack that it rubbed on the rear tyre and disintegrated before I found it.

Whatever I use, carry a couple of spare is my rule of thumb.

Some people do rate "Rok straps" for bungie type straps - they might be worth considering?
Thanks for all the suggestions, I will sure get some cam straps. I allready have ROK Straps, but only 2 to secure the tent to the rear rack.

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Out of interest who makes those? It's an idea I've had for a while to have panniers which could clip on to a harness which could remain strapped to the bike.
Those are made by Moto Detail and sold by Louis - Motorrad & Freizeit - Europas Nr.1 f�r Motorradbekleidung, Motorradhelme und Motorradzubeh�r., here is the new version of my bags, just different grafic style: MOTO-DETAIL GEPAECKSYSTEM - Louis - Motorrad & Freizeit

I will most likely be seeling them(cheaply) in late august if you are interested.
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My bags secure to the seat base plate with 2 buckles each of the panniers. But this year they are a bit heavier than last year as I also have some tools with me and more clothes. I am affraid that these buckles will give up on any rough surfaces. Here is the picture of the buckels:

Thanks for help and sory for hijack!
Out of interest who makes those? It's an idea I've had for a while to have panniers which could clip on to a harness which could remain strapped to the bike.
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