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Compact petrol camping stove
Hi all,
I found a link while checking the different stoves available and came across this one. From what I understand this style of stove has been pretty rare to buy and much coveted by old school bikers.
Petrol stove
Edit 26/6/10: I dropped into the store to have a closer look at the stove. It is solidly constructed, maybe a bit too heavy for my liking. I will have to also revise the 'compact' part of the description as well. In its defense, It would last a lifetime and you probably couldn't kill it with a stick.
Cheers Ben.
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Blimey, that's a bit like finding a picture of an old girlfriend you'd forgotten about.  They were old school when I started bike touring forty plus years ago.
We used one throughout the 70's and from memory it was ok but a bit fiddly to get started and the inside of the box soon became pretty disgusting with soot and other deposits. Stopped using it after a few flareups and bought some cheap camping gaz stoves.
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I use one. Totally overpriced when new (but aren't all petrol stoves) and a bit of a fiddle to start (like all petrol stoves). The stove in a box design is way superior IMHO to a bag of bits you need to assemble each time, you can even cram a box of matches in there.
The best one IMHO is the Korean Army version. It's half size but nearly as powerful. A good mate of mine gave me one, but he says they pop up on e-bay from time to time. Take care with the models, a lot of older ones are jetted for parafin.
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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie
The best one IMHO is the Korean Army version. It's half size but nearly as powerful. A good mate of mine gave me one, but he says they pop up on e-bay from time to time. Take care with the models, a lot of older ones are jetted for parafin.
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Why is it that modern stoves have so much trouble running reliably on paraffin? Back in the fifties and sixties I knew of many people who used paraffin primus stoves daily in their kitchens as their primary cooking device with no problems. My high tech optimus multifuel only just manages to run on it.
I do note though that the old primus stoves had a proper heat exchanger to gasify the paraffin and a burner with a rose head.
Only downside is that they are bulky although one piece.
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I think it's more the fuel than the stoves. Unleaded seems to loose it's "go" in about a month, parafin leaves waxy residue, meths seems to be some sort of ribeana based alchopop and you need a mortgage for coleman fuel.
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I think it's more the fuel than the stoves. Unleaded seems to loose it's "go" in about a month, parafin leaves waxy residue, meths seems to be some sort of ribeana based alchopop and you need a mortgage for coleman fuel.
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My oil lamps work fine, as does my tilley lamp. Somewhere in the barn I have an old Primus stove from the fifties or sixties that I have lost the rose from. I may one day find it and get another rose from ebay.
I think it is the way they preheat the oil. The old Primus stoves had a much bigger pre heater than my Omnifuel. It also ran a lot quieter.
I have an old French oil fired stove in the kitchen. It is meant to run on red diesel, I had intended to run it on home made sunflower oil but it is just as happy on kerosene or old engine oil. Just have to vary the throttle settings a bit for different viscosity of oil. It just seems to be the viscosity that alters the heat output due to the different flow rates.
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I had one of them, I used in the Army really good, I now have a coleman multi fuel lot better
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How about one of the new ultralight alcohol stoves, which I understand from backpackers work great? They are tiny, and weigh just a few ounces. They can burn all sorts of alcohol, or even high-proof rum if that's all you've got (I prefer to drink it). Haven't used one myself, but I'm checking out the market and asking around to see what backpackers like. This one: Brasslite Ultralight Alcohol Backpacking and Camping Stove and this one Penny Ultralight Alcohol Backpacking Stove look pretty interesting. I talked to a woman who uses the brasslite and she does some elaborate cooking on it. One thing I like is that potential alcohol spills are much less nasty than kero or petrol (gasoline).
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You can easily make your own alcohol "penny" stove from a couple empty  /soda cans: 
Cool Little Miniature Stove!
Personally I use the MSR Whisperlite International as it is very compact and can use virtually any fuel. However it's very difficult to "simmer" with these types of stoves.
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Personally I use the MSR Whisperlite International as it is very compact and can use virtually any fuel. However it's very difficult to "simmer" with these types of stoves. |
I have the same stove and found the lack of simmer a real pain. Then it occurred to me to just run a lot less pressure once it has warmed up. I may even put only 3 or 4 strokes of the pump on a 3/4 full bottle and just pump it once every so often to keep the simmer. Took a bit of practice but I got there in the end!
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Hi all,
I found a link while checking the different stoves available and came across this one. From what I understand this style of stove has been pretty rare to buy and much coveted by old school bikers.
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If you want something that won't (can't) break down - take a look at the Optimus Svea. Only one moving part (two if it's the self-cleaning one). I've had one for almost 30 years. Fsckin' brilliant.
Svea 123 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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If you want something that won't (can't) break down - take a look at the Optimus Svea. Only one moving part (two if it's the self-cleaning one). I've had one for almost 30 years. Fsckin' brilliant.
Svea 123 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Tough stove.
Mines 38 years old, still works well. 
But I now use a JetBoil on most of my trips when I need a stove.
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i'm familiar with 3 stoves...
i use the primus omnifuel. it is slow and doesn't like wind. i didn't bother to bring the wind shield but panniers sometimes work. the bottle is bulky. i bought this because i could run it on whatever i can find.
i rode with a guy who had a jetboil. this is seriously fast but only does about 500ml of water. great for coffee but useless for meals. also in africa its tough to replace the small gas cylinder, and bigger cylinders don't fit in the container.
also rode with a guy who had a coleman feather light. i reckon this is brilliant. fast, compact, decent size burner, easy to use, cheaper than the omnifuel. seriously fast cooker which doesn't blow out in the wind.
anyway thats my opinion for what its worth...
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I use a petrol Trangia. All the bits, pots pans etc, fit into the wind shield and packs up small enough to fit it an old gas mask bag which fits onto my crash bars. It was not cheap but I like they way it all fits together and as long as I have petrol in my tank then I have a cooker.
Incidentally there have been other posts about the trangia on this site... http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...l-vs-gas-39810
and on the Moroocan Forum one guy says do not ever burn petrol in one of these or they will explode but I found it works great no problems at all.
You can find the Trangia here.
Trangia Multi-Fuel Burner
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Originally Posted by greenmanalishi
I use a petrol Trangia. All the bits, pots pans etc, fit into the wind shield and packs up small enough to fit it an old gas mask bag which fits onto my crash bars. It was not cheap but I like they way it all fits together and as long as I have petrol in my tank then I have a cooker.
Incidentally there have been other posts about the trangia on this site... http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...l-vs-gas-39810
and on the Moroocan Forum one guy says do not ever burn petrol in one of these or they will explode but I found it works great no problems at all.
You can find the Trangia here.
Trangia Multi-Fuel Burner
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The link you posted shows a Trangia conversion with a special petrol burner .Which ,of course, will burn petrol or white gasoline very well .
If you try to burn petrol in a regular Trangia burner ,you will have a fireball on your hands .They are an alcohol stove only.
BTW the price for the conversion is a rip off and costs more than the Optimus/Primus burner from which it is derived .[ Use an optimus or primus burner from eBay minus the legs and potholder to convert a Trangia to petrol/white gasoline/coleman fuel]
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