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Comparison: Adv Spec Magadan; Enduristan Monsoon, Kriega Overlander, GL Siskiyou
Hi all, the range of overland-ready soft baggage has got better than ever lately and in the last few months I’ve used Enduristan Monsoon throwovers in Morocco, been getting into my new Adventure Spec Magadans and had a mate drop by the other day with his new Kriega Overlander set up and in March 2013 inspcted the new Giant Loop Siskiyou panniers.
Over the years I’ve also used Touratech Zega Flex, Andy Strapz (melted before I got a pic), as well as Oxford Soverign (also melted) and army surplus/canvas ( burned) when there was nothing better, plus alloy boxes, sawn off jerries and all the rest.
The table below sums up the stats of the first five mentioned (above links go to detailed reviews/impressions + pics) as those are the ones I have direct and recent experience with. Other soft baggage is available and may suit your needs better ;-)
Some manage without, but I reckon if you're carrying a big load in throwovers on a trans-continental ride in what I call the AMZ, some kind of rack is essential to securely locate the bags away from hot pipes, wheels and chains.
Hope some of you find the comparison useful.
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Last edited by Chris Scott; 25 May 2013 at 00:27.
Reason: update March 2013
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Kriega are listing the Overlander-60 setup at £489 on their website, as are ADV-spec. As far as I can tell you get both bags and platforms for that price.
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You're right Dash.
The price given in the table was as I saw them, with three bags + the Rotopax mount and cans based on Kriega online prices.
I've clarified the table. Thanks
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No problem. Didn't quite add up with what I thought I'd read for the Kriega, so I went and checked - the Rotopax stuff isn't cheap is it?
Interesting comparison.
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I used the Kriega us 30 and the US 10 for 5 weeks in total find them very good and very well waterproof (9 days of rain).
Maybe you could put them on your list.
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A downside to the Kriega system which occurred to me today is size. I know in theory they can form one of the larger capacity luggage options but the smaller Suze of each individual bag must surely be restrictive forcing you to put longer items, tent/sleeping mat/tools etc in a bag across the luggage rack/pillion which then lifts the CofG up and back and away from Chris's optimal low and forward position. The perk to a single bigger bag each side is surely the fact that they have long diagonals for items which won't fold short.
I'm personally still not convinced that any of the soft luggage has yet got close to perfect, in some cases they seem over constructed like the Magadans with their duplication of waterproof roll-top bags one inside the other, I'm still pondering the idea of an outer, semi-rigid compression "bag", nut waterproof but abrasion resistant with simple roll-top waterproof bags inside.
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Nah, do the measurement for the comparison I meant.
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Oh sorry. Well with water might be tricky and too heavy, but perhaps the beans method that GL mention, or some similar, non-compressible but lighter-than-water medium which you can measure by the jug load. Maybe even inflate an air bag and try and measure that.
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Prior to this summer I owned a GL. Over the summer I borrowed a mate's BMW XC with Magadans in Siberia (and rode to Magadan  ) I have purchased the Magadan bags off said mate (and the bike too...  ). I'll soon be selling the GL.
Both are sturdy and rugged.
However: I prefer the ease of top loading/accessing kit on the side of the trail. I found trying to close the GL on the roadside impossible and had to remove it and then reattach. The biggest downside to the GL is their propensity to leak, despite liberal use of seam-sealant. The Magadans don't leak. The weather in Siberia this summer was horrendous and there were plenty of rivers to cross and not a bridge in sight.
I feel if you're away for the weekend, the the GL is ok. But for longer trips, even just a week, the GL is a pita to use.
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Chris,
You could try something called vermiculite, it's the beans you find in garden centres under the plants. Very light, very even size and not that expensive.
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Giant Loop revised Coyote Saddlebag volume
We recently re-measured the volume of the Giant Loop Coyote Saddlebag using our bean count method. The result is 39+ liters = 9+ liters more than claimed.
Also, Giant Loop has added a number of 100% waterproof options in the past year or so . . . as well as the Siskiyou Panniers, a convenient top-loading design being ridden around the world by Noah Horak right now.
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