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Take a minute and think about what Itchy Boots' days are like. She'll ride for a few hundred kilometers or less, see one or two interesting things, arrive at her hotel for the night (and she needs a nice hotel with good wifi and electricity every night, with the cost and flexibility limitations there), then she'll spend the rest of her evening editing the footage and uploading the episode.
Or think of Ed March. He'll spend a few weeks travelling, and then a month literally doing nothing else but cutting together a single hour-long episode. AND a lot of his riding involves setting up a tripod, riding past it, then coming back to pack it up on the bike before moving on!
That's fine for them - they've built up a lot of skill and experience at it, and this is literally what they do for a living - but if you're not already an accomplished video editor, I suggest you don't try to start.
Filming your trip with the intention of making a video from it will almost inevitably fail OR ruin your experience. The way to produce a memory of your trip is to write a book about it - after you return.
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The best camera is the one you have in your hand when you need it. Therefore, get a phone with the best camera you can afford. I've recently switched to the iPhone 13 Mini, but I would recommend getting one of the newer Android phones, because for the same money you will get both a wide-angle AND a telephoto lens in your device. I own a nice Sony DSLR with multiple lenses, but 99.9% of the time, my smartphone takes photos that are good enough for my purposes. A good optical zoom is the only thing I truly miss, especially now that phones are also very good at night shots.
If you can afford a GoPro, get one, and get the newest one. Their stabilization, video quality, extra features, and convenience of use get better with every generation. Get a bunch of extra mounts for it - they're cheap - and set them up all over your bike, so that you can change the gopro's placement around for diverse shots.
And finally, if you ramble on inside your helmet and want to provide a running commentary:
A helmet speaker system with a camera built in, like the Sena 50C. There are very faffy ways to rig an external microphone separately in your helmet going to your GoPro, or to a sound recorder and then add your voice to the video in post-production, but only the 50C-type of setups will record your helmet audio onto the footage you make right away, without additional unreliable bullshit.
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That's pretty much exactly my thoughts as well. To do it well means turning it into a job, and how many creative jobs can you jump in the deep end at and do them right first time. To get a decent video from a trip you'll have a history of terrible videos stretching back behind you. If this is your first one you can be close to certain this won't turn out to be the 'decent' one.
With GoPros, the latest one, the Hero 10 seems to be pretty good, as does the one before last, the Hero 8. The Hero 9 is reputed to be full of software bugs - something you might want to consider if GoPro is going to be your travel cam of choice.
I've not had much luck with phones as action cams. We've tried them a few times and they're great (good enough anyway) for off the bike stuff, but on bike the mounts and the vulnerability are very marginal - nothing like as good as what's around for GoPros. Having said that my experience is all pre Covid so things may have moved on in the last couple of years. What's universally rubbish for bike trip video (or even stills on the move) are 'proper' cameras - DSLRs / mirrorless and the like. I have loads of them (I used to be a pro snapper before I retired) and still try to convince myself they're the things to use, but the reality is that time and technology has moved on. Take one and you'll probably find it's unused at the end of the trip.
Re writing a book afterwards, yes that'll bring it all back but it'll take even longer than editing a video. I've done four now, with a fifth in the works, and I average about one a year (80 to 100,000 words per book, which for a paperback is about an inch thick). Every creative writing course you'll ever do will tell you to take notes - write down everything as soon as possible afterwards and base the book on those notes. Coming from a visual background I use a small camera as my notebook and photograph what I want to remember. For the last book I had 2000 photographs as aide memoires. It works for me but I've had 30yrs of trying to tell stories with still pictures so I can record the essence of a situation easily.
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Or think of Ed March. He'll spend a few weeks travelling, and then a month literally doing nothing else but cutting together a single hour-long episode. AND a lot of his riding involves setting up a tripod, riding past it, then coming back to pack it up on the bike before moving on!
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If you've never watched Ed March's videos on Youtube, I highly recommend them - very entertaining, and it's amazing to me where he's gone on his knackered old Cub 90.
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Before thinking about what video equipment you might want to buy, think about why you're filming said trip. Who is the target audience? How much effort and time acquiring filming skills and especially editing skills do you want to invest? What's wrong with just happy snapping with a camera phone for social media and personal memories as well as a personal diary?
Also, once you've created some clips, if you want more than just a few mates or your grandkids to watch them, you'll spend the rest of your days "marketing"  your offerings, which is basically spamming social media, and just making people unfollow or block you, because 98% of YouTube bike travel videos are in my opinion, just not very good. Check HU FB as to the number likes people don't get sharing their videos compared to a nice picture or 2 with an interesting/ personal description.
Being male and 59, you lack certain attributes to become the next viral internet sensation, again only my personal opinion, should you have aspirations in that regard
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Being male and 59, you lack certain attributes to become the next viral internet sensation
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There is plenty of room to find an audience beyond friends and relatives if the content is right. doesn't matter the sex or age in my opinion.
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We have to look at Social Media "Business" as a real Business opportunity today.. Where some people are able to outperform the income of a normal job even as attorney or doctor easily.
Not just social media, too with egames you can earn a lot of cash.
An Account like Eva is able to optain 120k Euro monthly.
Read (probably with a translator)
https://www.businessinsider.de/karri...-verdienen-r2/
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WOW. Thanks ever so much to everyone who took the time to reply. I think perhaps, I didn't explain myself very well. Despite my reference to youtube, I do not have a target audience. Indeed, I merely wish to have a record of my trip other than poor-quality photographs. I'm not really that bothered about having a camera attached to the bike. It's more about filming my surroundings and the people that I meet. However, I will read again the great replies from you all as I have been given a number of different options, Thanks again, everyone.
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WOW. ...... Indeed, I merely wish to have a record of my trip other than poor-quality photographs. I'm not really that bothered about having a camera attached to the bike. It's more about filming my surroundings and the people that I meet. ......
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You can buy any kind of camera or whatever equipement that meets your imagination of not poor quality. What cannot buy is a photographic or filmic eye and creativity which avoids poor boring quality in the end.
The difference between Itchey Boots or Ed March or other youtubing travellers and you will be your creativity to make your "boring scenes" interesting for your audience to watch.
These Youtubers are creating an income for their traveling and living and they have to show every piece of shit on the road as the hottest and thrilling thing for their (mostly) armchair traveling followers to feed the ads cash cow by click numbers.
What you want is your personal documentary and so you should act in your filming. Forget every kind of pro or semi pro aspect of filming and do what you want.
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afterwards will know much better what you have done wrong in your view. Any by knowing this you should practise and practise filming as much as you can before you start your trip.
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There is plenty of room to find an audience beyond friends and relatives if the content is right. doesn't matter the sex or age in my opinion.
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Oh yes it does - in my experience / opinion anyway.
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Oh yes it does - in my experience / opinion anyway.
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Yes, a sexy girl will have a quicker grow, are able to get more followers.
But there are those old mans with one pack (instead of a sixpack) - who was able to get a working community.
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Yes, a sexy girl will have a quicker grow, are able to get more followers.
But there are those old mans with one pack (instead of a sixpack) - who was able to get a working community.
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Let's face it, we are simple creatures with minimal requirements after all (men that is)  Most of this is fantasy travel and watching a pretty girl with a winning smile overland her way round the world is going to tick most of the boxes if you want to drift off into a daydream on your way to Starbucks. It's not quite the same following some grizzled old codger doing the same thing.
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Before thinking about what video equipment you might want to buy, think about why you're filming said trip. Who is the target audience? How much effort and time acquiring filming skills and especially editing skills do you want to invest? What's wrong with just happy snapping with a camera phone for social media and personal memories as well as a personal diary?
Also, once you've created some clips, if you want more than just a few mates or your grandkids to watch them, you'll spend the rest of your days "marketing"  your offerings, which is basically spamming social media, and just making people unfollow or block you, because 98% of YouTube bike travel videos are in my opinion, just not very good. Check HU FB as to the number likes people don't get sharing their videos compared to a nice picture or 2 with an interesting/ personal description.
Being male and 59, you lack certain attributes to become the next viral internet sensation, again only my personal opinion, should you have aspirations in that regard 
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Fantastic reply. I didn't make myself clear. Nope, I have no wish to be an internet sensation. All I want is to have something to show my mates and grandkids. It has to be simple to use, they don't call me 40 watts for nothing!! (although the light is on, it's just that it isn't very bright).
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Fantastic reply. I didn't make myself clear. Nope, I have no wish to be an internet sensation. All I want is to have something to show my mates and grandkids. It has to be simple to use, they don't call me 40 watts for nothing!! (although the light is on, it's just that it isn't very bright).
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Good to know what you're actually trying to achieve with your videos. In my opinion I would suggest just using a better mobile phone (or possibly tablet) with a good stills/ video camera. There seem to be several video editing apps in the Apple or Play Store. Before your trip just shoot some random footage (maybe research a few dos/don'ts of filming too) on your phone and try one or 2 of the editing apps and decide (also read reviews) and see what you like best in terms of usability and results.
15 or so years ago I used to use professional software and a camcorder, but while I mastered the technical aspects of the camera and software (I taught IT, so had to be able to show my students what to do), I lacked the "eye" to make decent short movies and the hours I spent in-edit, for no particular gain wasn't effective. (Or maybe it was my lack of blond (any!) hair or feminine features?  ).
In recent years I haven't even be ar$ed to bother taking a proper video camera or GoPro on trips anymore.
I still like shooting pictures on a proper stills camera, but really only at motorsports events. When travelling I only use my phone (for memories and social media).
My old YouTube channel is https://youtube.com/user/thebrightstuffdotcom
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Since the OP was a shooter in a prior life, I’ll recommend a couple of very nice apps that give full professional control over an iPhone, at ridiculously low cost. (Feature films have been shot, several iPhone versions ago, with these apps.)
For video: Filmic Pro
For stills: Procam or Firstlight
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Check HU FB as to the number likes people don't get sharing their videos compared to a nice picture or 2 with an interesting/ personal description.
Being male and 59, you lack certain attributes to become the next viral internet sensation, again only my personal opinion, should you have aspirations in that regard 
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These two made me giggle.
Firstly, I thought HU FB was solely dedicated and filled with people hocking their videos, and secondly, my wife and I play a game of spot the b00b on any of the “adventure” videos with the young girl and guy.
Scroll through to see “most viewed” and their it is
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