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Originally Posted by grizzly7
Why would anyone prefer to charge a phone from a mains charger through an inverter rather than a 12volt cigrette lighter socket? Unless thats the only charger you have available of course!
Also, what happens inside a 12volt charger for a phone for example that doesn't happen in an inverter? The "chargee" still must get the same voltage from both, is it just most things like phones require a voltage closer to 12 than 220 so the smaller step means greater efficiency??
In my case, i bought a shiny new pc with lots of disc space for photos etc, thinking i would buy a posh sine wave inverter, encase the pc box in foam to keep the dust out, and have a disc drive, keyboard etc etc on long leads so i would never need to access the pc itself. But having looked at the input wattage of both the pc and the nice efficient lcd screen, and best advice seems to be get an inverter capable of twice what you need, even two sine wave inverters (cheaper than one big one of identical capacity) were more expensive than binning the pc and buying a new laptop that could run happily on 12volts!! Thats before looking at the battery requirements to power a big inverter!
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Several manufacturers make 12 volt adapters that allow you to run/charge your laptop from a 12 volt adapter, Kensington for example. As we live in a 110/240 volt world, all laptops are sold with a transformer that converts 240 volt to somewhere between 12 and 24 volt. For example, an apple laptop typically runs on 18.5 volt/85 watt. No one makes an adapter allowing you to power an apple laptop from 12 volt, but there is a US company that will adapt you adapter to connect to a kensington adapter and run on 12 volt.
In an ideal world, laptops and battery charges - like mobile phones and ipods - would be charged from 12 volt directly, when travelling on a bike/in a car/having a solar powered house etc.
Otherwise you would be using an inverter two step up 12 volt to 240, then step it back down again to say 18.5 volt, it doesn't take a scientist to understand that that's a very inefficient way of powering your laptop, with a lot of loss of energy, and it drains even a good deep cycle battery rather quickly.
We're travelling with 2 kids, one apple laptop, two netbooks, and more battery chargers for cameras and torches then I care to mention.
To get the apple laptop converted to run on 12 volt + another kensington adapter to run at leaste one of the netbooks sets you back more then even a 1000 watt mod sine inverter that will run anything...
I've decided to go with a 1000 watt mod sine inverter, no kensington adapter for now, one battery charger that will charge AAA and AA batteries from 12 volt (phew), ipods/iphones charge on 12 volt, but everything else will have to run off an inefficient, but cheap, modified sine inverter.
The money I save by not choosing an expensive pure sine inverter and/or kensington adapter to run laptops from 12 volt is invested in a 130amp/hour agm deep cycle battery. This shouls run the fridge for 3-4 days before recharging, and hopefully allow 'some' charging of laptops as well... When they run out of juice we'll just have to go and play outside!