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**Mumbo68** · #1 16 Jun 2010

Hi all ,has anybody used one of those temporary puncture repair kits for tubeless tyres where you sort of drill the hole out with the tool in the kit and then insert a plug from the outside with the tyre still on the rim?
If so was it a success,was it fairly staight forward to use are any makes superior to others ?
I thought the hein gericke one looked fairly good,comes in a little case that would pack nicely.
Are the plugs long enough for all tyre types ?Although not full off road mine are still fairly deep tread dual purpose like you get on the bigger bikes.
Thanks for any opinions on these.

**holodragon** · #2 16 Jun 2010

Yes have used the repair kit for tubeless tyres,quite easy to use,instructions come with the kits but a quick explanation....
Use the bung insertion tool to enlarge the puncture hole (so it can take the bung) stretch the bung on to the insertion tool(think thick rubber arrow) this narrows it so you can fit it into the puncture hole,apply adhesive to the hole & push bung in,push top of bung off the hook on the insertion tool & remove the tool,leave for 10 minutes for adhesive to set then trim the bung so flush with tyre,best the leave another half hour so the adhesive can cure properly.
Supposed to keep speed down to about 40mph with bung in & get a proper vulcanised repair as soon as possible but in reality they are pretty tough & can take higher speeds.
Hope this helps,
Andy

**Mumbo68** · #3 16 Jun 2010

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Originally Posted by holodragon

Yes have used the repair kit for tubeless tyres,quite easy to use,instructions come with the kits but a quick explanation....
Use the bung insertion tool to enlarge the puncture hole (so it can take the bung) stretch the bung on to the insertion tool(think thick rubber arrow) this narrows it so you can fit it into the puncture hole,apply adhesive to the hole & push bung in,push top of bung off the hook on the insertion tool & remove the tool,leave for 10 minutes for adhesive to set then trim the bung so flush with tyre,best the leave another half hour so the adhesive can cure properly.
Supposed to keep speed down to about 40mph with bung in & get a proper vulcanised repair as soon as possible but in reality they are pretty tough & can take higher speeds.
Hope this helps,
Andy

Thanks Andy that helps alot ,think I'll get one..............any idea how many of the gas canisters you'd need to get the rear tyre on a 1200gsa up to pressure two up and loaded so 42psi I guess.

**MikeS** · #4 16 Jun 2010

Yes, very easy to use and got me out of several scrapes. Don't bother with the gas cannisters, make sure you have a decent small compressor and a pressure gauge and that's all you'll need. I remember fixing a tyre in Peru and the only reason I got a proper repair carried out in Costa Rica was because the tyre started to split around the tube repair (several thousand kms later) and then it was just a bit of a slow leak. The repair basically vulcanises in the tyre once it heats up again.

I used one of these pumps for about 1.5yr on the road, never let me down.

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Originally Posted by Mumbo68

Thanks Andy that helps alot ,think I'll get one..............any idea how many of the gas canisters you'd need to get the rear tyre on a 1200gsa up to pressure two up and loaded so 42psi I guess.

**Tim Cullis** · #5 16 Jun 2010

I have a Slime 12v inflator (from link in above post) and 'Stop n Go' mushroom system from Busters Motorcycle Accessories

See Busters Motorcycle Accessories for more products

Tim

**bodie** · #6 16 Jun 2010

Hi i had to use one in on a tour a couple of weeks ago third day into trip and new tyre anyway no probs apart from 3 little c02 cannisters didnt put much pressure in but enough to get to a garage with compressor did about another 2500 miles by time we got home but did buy a push bike pump to replace c02 great bit of kit this was standard bmw issue kit .Rob

**beddhist** · #7 17 Jun 2010

When Tiptop first released their kit in about 1981 our bike shop held an open day. My boss used a drill to put holes into an old tyre and customers took turns to fix them. Great fun and to prove that it works he then fitted the tyre to his CB900 and used it up.

IMHO tubeless tyres are the best invention since Mr Dunlop invented air-filled tyres. Having said that, this doesn't always work and you have to consider whether you will carry some kind of backup system, like tyre patches and the tools to get the tyre off and onto the rim.

Putting tubes into tyres on tubeless rims is asking for trouble, because it elegantly combines the disadvantages of both without the advantages of either: you can't easily get the tyre off the rim, but you have to do it for every puncture.

**motomal** · #8 17 Jun 2010

I've just ordered this one COMPRESSOR

I saw a review on here or ADVrider where someone had used this repeatedly on a long trip. I have the tubeless repair kit and didn't fancy relying on the CO2 cartridges, especially if it doesn't seal first time and you need to top up etc. I was sold when I bought my trail bike as I want to air up & down at will without needing to find a garage. I would just use a decent bicycle pump if I couldn't afford the compressor, like this one I have for mountain biking HAND PUMP

Hope this helps

**DAVSATO** · #9 18 Jun 2010

agree with every post, ive filled my tyres with punctureseal and have never had a problem but my mate has had several punctures on his v-strom and used a freebie repair kit from a magazine subscription.
the repair was excellent, worked every time. but the co2 inflator was rubbish, he used 5 powerlets and it still didnt get up to pressure. so dont worry about using the kit but certainly get a small 12v compressor.

(you always get punctures in the rear tyre, but the front goes first so whats that all about?)

**Big Yellow Tractor** · #10 18 Jun 2010

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Originally Posted by DAVSATO

(you always get punctures in the rear tyre, but the front goes first so whats that all about?)

There is a theory that the front tyre runs over the nail / thorn / bit of shrapnel flicking it up ready for the rear to catch it.

I use the "dog turd" repair kits on my trials bike; it's like a bit of sticky bootlace that you poke into a reamed out hole with a tool, give it a few twists and remove the tool. I have made successful repairs on a couple of van tyres with the same gizmo. I use a little push-bike pump. I've got a little compressor but to be hones, a good hand pump does the job (not on van tyres of course !!)

**900fantrider** · #11 19 Jun 2010

Ive been useing the "dog turd" repairs on my 4x4 for a few years and done thousands of miles without any problems. If you spot a nail etc you can usually get the repair done hardly losing any pressure. The only thing hard to get your head round is that youve a thin nail creating a little hole and then you go ramming the tool in and making a bigger hole!
cheers Marc

**Toyark** · #12 19 Jun 2010

I favour the more compact model than that which Tim uses
The pocket version.
It has- to date- fixed more car punctures than bike!

**Selous** · #13 19 Jun 2010

I have a simler to the bug & seal things i got it from as a freebee ish from MCN I had to pay for the p+p only.
I only got it as i had a flat and the AA man told me the AA use the 1 he had they get them from BMW looked at the price! & walked lol

Asda & Tesco both have the compressor at £5 machine mart have them for £10

**Pwyll** · #14 30 Jun 2010

Hi,

I found this today.

BestRest Products, LLC - BeadSetR

Does anyone know if it actually works? It's from the same guys who make the cyclepump. It looks like it really works and this way it could be easy to replace a tubeless tyre on the road. They provide a lot of information about it. Could be a sales trick though.

Greets

**MikeS** · #15 30 Jun 2010

Not sure if that's necessary, I changed my tubeless tires myself on the road and just used some washing up liquid or wd40 to help the tyre fitting along, sometimes it took a few goes to get the bead to set but it always did.

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Originally Posted by Pwyll

Hi,

I found this today.

BestRest Products, LLC - BeadSetR

Does anyone know if it actually works? It's from the same guys who make the cyclepump. It looks like it really works and this way it could be easy to replace a tubeless tyre on the road. They provide a lot of information about it. Could be a sales trick though.

Greets

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