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The TCX Infinity protection is not that good at all if going off road. It's a very soft, supple boot. (for comfort) Really a "Lite Duty" dual sport or road boot at best. Two riding buddies own them. They use them as a road boot only ... not off road. But to me the biggest negative is the price. ($380 usd)
My Hein Gericke Rallye lll's were $345, not having laid eyes or hands on the TXC's I've heard they're all but identical. I have no trouble going bush with the HG's they're sturdy off road, water proof and comfortable to walk in all day, for my money the perfect all round boot!
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Gaerne G Midland: great fit, support and waterproof. fairly comfortable to walk in as well.

Gaerne G-Midland Boots by Atomic Moto
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Gaerne G Midland: great fit, support and waterproof. fairly comfortable to walk in as well.

Gaerne G-Midland Boots by Atomic Moto
Excellent choice! And good price as well! Gaerne are famous for comfort.
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Gaerne G Midland: great fit, support and waterproof. fairly comfortable to walk in as well.

Gaerne G-Midland Boots by Atomic Moto
I'd definitely look at the Gaerne G Midland when the Hein Gericke Rallye lll's wear out, better grip, well priced quality boots.
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Try a pair of Forma Adventure's before you buy any thing else.

Not full motox boots but good protection and last very well for a mid priced boot. Get two pairs for the cost of one expensive brand !!

Best compromise boot I've had.

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Thanks for all the replies!

Just got reply from Alpinestars (after I included Alpinestars Italy in my email).
They said that I need to take my boots to the dealer where I bought them (I bought them from Germany) and then they can send them to Italy for inspection... So not an option for me...
I am at the moment close to Orlando and tomorrow I will ride to Birmingham to see Barber museum Barber : Home

Does anyone know a good place in Birmingham, Alabama to buy new boots?
I really need to compare and try these boots in the store.
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[QUOTE=Hemuli;459834]Does anyone know a good place in Birmingham, Alabama to buy new boots?QUOTE]

touring boots at Cycle Gear

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Dude you ask the hardest questions, there ya go, that will keep you busy for a while ;-)
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Forma adventure

Bought a pair of forma adventure for a trip in April 2014, and i've a few thousand test miles on them already. Made in Italy, so the quality is good. They broke in in a few days with just one blister and are super comfortable to walk in. Billed as waterproof, and sticking my feet under the ouside tap they stayed dry. Came up on size too. As a bonus, they are super warm. Adiquate protection. So far so good.

But.....

Why does the waterproof tounge only go 2/3rds of the way up the boot? Stopping 4 inches short of the top? This means if I walk through a puddle/river deeper than the tongue I will have wet feet. For reference, the sidi black evo sports touring boots I have, whilst calf length, have a higher tongue and thus offer better waterproof protection.

So I've just walked through a puddle to see how deep it is and my boots are filled with water (deep apparently). Being waterproof they now resemble buckets. The only option is to take them off and pour out the water. My riding buddy just walks about in his Gearne gx-1 boots squeezing out the water and laughs.


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If you are going to do wet stuff, steer clear. If you want a comfortable trail boot of good quality you're on the right track.
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Somewhere on one of Colebatch's many Trip Threads he discusses boots and water in detail. On his BAM trips they found Gore-Tex and other "waterproof" boots to be problematic as they took forever to dry out once soaked on the inside ... and no boot stays dry walking through a meter of water. I believe they preferred boots that drained quickly and would dry out.

Bit of a conundrum ... most times waterproof is good but if in deep water, where water gets over top of boot ... not good. What to do?

Others chimed in with their solution to crossing deep water. Some swapped out to tennis shoes/street shoes and kept riding boots dry and walked bike across deep water section.

Others rode across whilst hoisting legs UP HIGH, off pegs, staying above water. (this was my technique during my enduro comp. time) But not so easy if crossing is tough, long or technical. Not too bad on my 2 strokes with NO gear on board ... on a fully loaded big bike ... not so easy.

No quick way to dry boots internally. TIME, heat, air flow. This is especially bad (dangerous?) if riding in freezing temps. Wet boots that freeze, also freeze your feet! (been there, done that)

For me now, I'd opt to remove boots and make do with sandals or whatever other shoe I have handy. Try to keep riding boots dry. (plastic bag?)

Colebatch mentioned that problem with this was you had to go on/off with boots 20 times a day ... at every crossing. Or you could ride on between rivers with your non protective shoes on ... .. very carefully!
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Bought a pair of forma adventure for a trip in April 2014, and i've a few thousand test miles on them already. Made in Italy, so the quality is good. They broke in in a few days with just one blister and are super comfortable to walk in. Billed as waterproof, and sticking my feet under the ouside tap they stayed dry. Came up on size too. As a bonus, they are super warm. Adiquate protection. So far so good.

But.....

Why does the waterproof tounge only go 2/3rds of the way up the boot? Stopping 4 inches short of the top? This means if I walk through a puddle/river deeper than the tongue I will have wet feet. For reference, the sidi black evo sports touring boots I have, whilst calf length, have a higher tongue and thus offer better waterproof protection.

So I've just walked through a puddle to see how deep it is and my boots are filled with water (deep apparently). Being waterproof they now resemble buckets. The only option is to take them off and pour out the water. My riding buddy just walks about in his Gearne gx-1 boots squeezing out the water and laughs.


Conclusion:

If you are going to do wet stuff, steer clear. If you want a comfortable trail boot of good quality you're on the right track.
I have been on the road soon 2 years and gone through a lot of puddles
I really liked Alpinestars Toucan boot (offers good protection and I can still walk with them (not hike)).
Only problem was that they lasted only 12 months of continuous usage (Sidi Adventure lasted only 6 months)...

At the moment my boots are fixed with duct tape ... Need to start looking new boots as soon as I make it back to California.
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At the moment my boots are fixed with duct tape ... Need to start looking new boots as soon as I make it back to California.
Try Chaparral in San Bernadino, CA. Biggest MC store in USA. Like Costco for bikes. Maybe bigger ... The good thing is they have most things IN STOCK and you can try things on. CALL THEM to see if the boots you want are in stock and in your size. If not, they can order them and have them there when you arrive.

Motorcycle Boots at Chaparral Motorsports Motorcycle Boot Center

Here is your boot ... WOW! that is expensive!
Alpinestars Toucan Gore-Tex Boot - Chaparral Motorsports
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Somewhere on one of Colebatch's many Trip Threads he discusses boots and water in detail. On his BAM trips they found Gore-Tex and other "waterproof" boots to be problematic as they took forever to dry out once soaked on the inside ... and no boot stays dry walking through a meter of water. I believe they preferred boots that drained quickly and would dry out.

Bit of a conundrum ... most times waterproof is good but if in deep water, where water gets over top of boot ... not good. What to do?

Others chimed in with their solution to crossing deep water. Some swapped out to tennis shoes/street shoes and kept riding boots dry and walked bike across deep water section.

Others rode across whilst hoisting legs UP HIGH, off pegs, staying above water. (this was my technique during my enduro comp. time) But not so easy if crossing is tough, long or technical. Not too bad on my 2 strokes with NO gear on board ... on a fully loaded big bike ... not so easy.

No quick way to dry boots internally. TIME, heat, air flow. This is especially bad (dangerous?) if riding in freezing temps. Wet boots that freeze, also freeze your feet! (been there, done that)

For me now, I'd opt to remove boots and make do with sandals or whatever other shoe I have handy. Try to keep riding boots dry. (plastic bag?)

Colebatch mentioned that problem with this was you had to go on/off with boots 20 times a day ... at every crossing. Or you could ride on between rivers with your non protective shoes on ... .. very carefully!
Yep, this is really difficult...
Also if you need to ride several days in a rain, then non waterproof shoes are not an ideal either...
Few years ago I spent several weeks in Iceland and had my Alpinestars Tech-3 boots (or Tech-8, do not remember anymore) on together with Sealskinz (SealSkinz Inc.). These worked well for few weeks trip, but for extended trip I do not think that these socks will hold up...
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Does anyone have any experience of Gaerne and Forma boots?
How is the quality of these boots?
How they compare to Sidi Adventure and Alpinestars Toucan boots?
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I also preach Alt-Berg Hogg all weather. Although at first they seemed uncomfortable, after a little while I got used to them and now they are good for riding and walking for miles (almost like hiking shoes).

When it comes to providing protection, it's a compromise, but still Alt-Bergs seem better then my previous RST riding boots, which also broke only after about 4 months of using.

Here's a short review I've done on my page:
http://www.nomadsatheart.com/motorcy...g-all-weather/

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The TCX Infinity are a great looking boot ... and SUPER comfortable. But protection is not that good at all if going off road.
It's a very soft, supple boot. (for comfort)

Really a "Lite Duty" dual sport or road boot at best. Two riding buddies own them. They use them as a road boot only ... not off road. But to me the biggest negative is the price. ($380 usd)

Hein Gericke products have not been sold in US for over 10 years.
I have TCX Infinity boots, and yes they are comfy. But I would not say that it's a long lasting boot. I'm on my 3rd pair in approx 6 years (~160-170kkm), they tend to fail miserable, like the a sowing (last year), suddenly start leaking(1th pair).

The sole is too soft for standing up for long periods.

I'm currently also looking for something else, but tooooo many choices.

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