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If you go to ADVRider here:
The Toolkit Thread - Page 2 - ADVrider
Look for message No. 20 at 09-06-2007, 08:13 PM, by 'hilslamer'.
At the end of a long line of photos you find reference to a makeshift fuel bladder made from a Starbucks coffee carrier.
Looks pretty neat so I think I'm going to see if they're available in England.
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I've got one of those liquid containment bags. They're awesome. The bloke lives just around the block as well, which is handy. Only had to use it once on Ruta 40 short tracking the fuel stop.
10l was AU$150 when I got them. Just roll them up when you don't need them. Don't stick them in with other stuff when you're done using them, because plyurethene seems to permeate the smells and everything will smell of fuel.
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I've got one of those liquid containment bags. They're awesome. The bloke lives just around the block as well, which is handy. Only had to use it once on Ruta 40 short tracking the fuel stop.
10l was AU$150 when I got them. Just roll them up when you don't need them. Don't stick them in with other stuff when you're done using them, because plyurethene seems to permeate the smells and everything will smell of fuel.
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tmotten thanks for the feedback. I sent an email to the company (well more precisely I filled the online form!) as you can't order via their website! I hope they deliver in the UK! I am definitely keen on a couple of those!
Not too keen guys on "makeshift stuff". If desperate I'd rather use a bottle of coke or soda. But I'd rather get proper good quality stuff that I can reuse on multiple trips.
That's the problem with changing the fuel tank. Once you sell the bike you have to do it again on the next. I wasted too much money on preping up my previous bike, all that for the little bugger to self-destruct!
Next bike for next big trip I intend to spend minimum in built-in prep-ups and ensure that what I spend is in stuff I can easily remove and reuse in another bike, regardless of model.
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Please can you let us know what he says?
Whether there is a discount for multiple orders and the possibility to save on shipping costs? 
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Fuel container.
Check this out as a cheaper alternative.
Army Issue Roll Up water Carrier from Surplus and Outdoors / Water Carriers
It's 20l with a couple of handles/tie down points.
Not meant to be a fuel carrier but it is petrol proof (did a 6 week storage test).
The tap isn't suited to petrol but can be easily blocked off.
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Whereever I've needed extra fuel capacity I organised Coke bottles (whatever size you can get locally), 4 litre oil containers and even plastic milk cartons. Use them for that part of the journey and then bin them. IMHO, Coke bottles are the best: sturdy, leak proof tops, don't need a funnel to pour content into fuel tank and the nozzles at filling stations fit in the top.
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PS And they are free
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I went for an aux. tank for the reasons stated here:
https://sites.google.com/site/threew...d-improvements
One thing this does solve is if you sell the bike or want the weight off. Also, much cheaper than big plastic tanks from well known accessory shops. It is of course a permanant fixture even if empty.
In terms of back up bladders, the coffee idea probbably isn't that daft. For reasons of cleaning and ease of production, the plastics used in the coffee bladder are probably the same as those used for wine bags/boxes. As wine is fairly similar to petrol in terms of attacks on polymer structures, I'd expect one to last weeks rather than days. Still disposable rather than reusable. Same argument goes for coke/milk bottles too. If you do end up using this back up, wrapping in a black bin liner will slow any degredation even further by keeping UV out.
Plastic washer bottles off trucks offer another semi-permanant alternative.
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coke bottles
Yes, coke bottles are fantastic at storing fuel when needs must. Mainly because a) they don't leak and b) they're free.
They are also cylindrical, a pain to lash onto bikes securely and have to be filled individually at a painfully slow rate.
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I think big tank is the way to go, with some bottles/cans on the few extreme stretches.
Canisters and bladders is extra equipment that you have to take care of and the more seldom you use it the bigger is the risk that it fails when you use it.
Yes a big tank is expensive but why do you want to sell the bike after your trip? You can make it even better and use it for the next trip, and the next trip…..
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Yes, coke bottles are fantastic at storing fuel when needs must. Mainly because a) they don't leak and b) they're free.
They are also cylindrical, a pain to lash onto bikes securely and have to be filled individually at a painfully slow rate.
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Have to disagree on Coke or similar bottles being a pain to lash securely to the bike. I put two 1.5 liter bottles in a sturdy plastic bag, knot the bag at end, and lash with a bungee between the bottles over the seat, or atop a soft bag on the seat.
Solid as a rock. Use the same technique for carrying two or even three bottles of water.
I definitely prefer Coke/water bottles for fuel when needed vs. a costly bladder thing that you're obliged to tote along even though you have no use for it 98% of the time.
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Please can you let us know what he says?
Whether there is a discount for multiple orders and the possibility to save on shipping costs? |
I did not get a response last time.
I filled 2 forms of his online site today and hope he will answer.
If not phoning may be next option.
What is the time difference btw UK and OZ Gold coast????? (where ever that coast is!) ...
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What is the time difference btw UK and OZ Gold coast????? (where ever that coast is!) ...
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Here you go, Maria. GMT +10 hours
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
BTW, I wrote to Paul at LC around this time last year looking for backup for my bike for crossing Saudi. He wrote back and answered my questions several times and even offered me a 'second-hand' bladder at a reduced cost.
It was still a bit pricey though and I ended up taking a 5-litre plastic fuel can (which didn't leave my bike until removed by a nice man on the channel ferry on grounds of safety). 
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If you go to ADVRider here:
The Toolkit Thread - Page 2 - ADVrider
Look for message No. 20 at 09-06-2007, 08:13 PM, by 'hilslamer'.
At the end of a long line of photos you find reference to a makeshift fuel bladder made from a Starbucks coffee carrier.
Looks pretty neat so I think I'm going to see if they're available in England. |
I would be surprised if it worked to be honest.. the plastic is not made for petrol....i would think it would desolve fairly quickly..And if it did work would you trust it...and get stuck somewhere...?
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