5Likes
|
|
17 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bonn
Posts: 15
|
|
Handguards with or without aluminium bar?
Hi everyone!
I'm planning to get some new handguards for my Triumph Tiger 800 XC.
Unfortunately I can't decide to go either for the plain plastic ones or for the ones with an additional aluminium bar!
Touratech doesn't offer aluminium bars, because they say, that those would bend anyway, when a motorcycle over 400 pounds falls. On the other hand, this might mean I have to get a new clutch or brake lever.
Did you guys made any experiences with either of the possibilities?
I'm grateful for every shared experience!
Best regards from Bonn (GER)!
|
17 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Middle England, UK
Posts: 457
|
|
The received wisdom, I think, is to use something like the Barkbusters set up with the metal bar. Personally, I think this would be the more protective choice. Just don't ask me which one's I have .
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bonn
Posts: 15
|
|
Alright..I think I'll go for the Barkbusters with the VPS covers.
Unfortunately it's not that easy to get them in Germany..
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,379
|
|
I use metal for racing but not for touring.
It's easy to hurt your hands if they get trapped behind the metal when you crash.
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bonn
Posts: 15
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AliBaba
I use metal for racing but not for touring.
It's easy to hurt your hands if they get trapped behind the metal when you crash.
|
How get your hands trapped behind the bar? And don't you crash more often in a race, so you'd go for the plastic ones on race-purpose?
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,379
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by benniontour
How get your hands trapped behind the bar?
|
That's easy, ride your front wheel into a hole. The bike stops and your body get pressed down and forward
Quote:
Originally Posted by benniontour
And don't you crash more often in a race, so you'd go for the plastic ones on race-purpose?
|
I crash more often in a race, but I accept higher risks in a race and the consequences are smaller. It's better to hurt your hand at a enduro-track then in the middle of nowhere.
In enduro we also have a lot of trees (at least up here) that we hit all the time. Metal really work for this kind of riding, but touring (even offroad) is something else.
Even the mx-people rarely use metal (not a lot of trees), it's better to break 10 levers then to brake your hand.
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bonn
Posts: 15
|
|
Thanks for your advice! Really helped me..though now I'm back at the start, where I don't know which handguards to choose.
I think if I hit a branch with the guards without a metal bar, they'll still protect my fingers and hands. A branch, which would destroy the handguard, probably send me off the bike, anyway.
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
R.I.P.
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: california
Posts: 3,824
|
|
I think you're missing the point here. It's unlikely you'll be running much single track trail on you BIG Tiger. The reasons for hand guards are several: If you fall on a BIG heavy bike like the Tiger it's possible that not only will you break a lever (and maybe whole assembly) ... but you may bend your handlebar and worst of all ... you may destroy things like the Brake master cylinder/reservoir ... or the clutch perch or a switch pod.
Plastic guards would be OK for hand protection against branches and such but when your 550 lb. PLUS bike hits the ground ... the plastic guards will just break or rotate around ... not protecting the above items.
And then ... you have your hands. If you fall hard you want your hands protected. A Aluminum guard will take the hit and stay (more or less) in position ... you can continue to hang onto the bars as you slide down the road and your hands will be inside and protected. I've done exactly this with NO injury.
I've seen stuff broken from just the bike falling over when parked. Think about it. Big, heavy bikes hit HARD when they go down.
The good thing about the Bark Busters is that they actually FIT onto the Tiger
pretty well. The more you talk to dirt bike guys you will find out that fitting many hand protectors systems involve some custom work with a Hammer, Vise and drill. I've done all this on previous dirt bikes using mostly Acerbis products. Acerbis are good ... but it's always One Size Fits All ... which just about guarantees they will NOT fit your Tiger!
So it's more than hand protection. On a light weight enduro bike light weight plastic guards (good ones) would be OK. But, IMO, not on a heavy duty
ADV bike.
Good luck!
|
18 Jan 2014
|
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
|
|
Bark-busters are good but they're bloody overpriced too. There's nothing special about them.
Acerbis Rally pro 2 are about £60 with all the fitting kit and just as strong. You can get the high spoiler for them too for a tenner.
Anyway..I'm a aluminium bar advocate. The ones without are good for weather protection only.. And the occasional twig.
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
|
19 Jan 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 738
|
|
Ditto for being for being a fan of the hand guards with the aluminum bar.
I was not aware that the racers went without so good to know that the hard core riders go without so thanks to AB for that info.
As for the OP, you might want to look at it from the perspective of what you will be using your bike for.
For touring or general overlanding, the aluminum braced hand guards have provided good protection for my hands at low to medium speed drops that are most common when riding around with side panniers and camping gear strapped to the top. This ranges from going too fast/too slow and then hitting soft sand/dirt when off highway to dropping your bike at low speed at the fuel station.
I figure that the trifecta of protection is the rear panniers, the hand guards, and the engine crash bars which generally have provided the points of contact with the ground when dropping the bike while mostly keeping my skin intact. That's at least the wear points that I have found on the bike after picking it up
Happy planning and ride safe whatever you choose.
|
19 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bonn
Posts: 15
|
|
I haven't mentioned before, but as Ted pointed out: The Barkbusters aren't a bargain and you pay a lot for them...as a student, this is an important point for me.
I'll write an email to the German distributor of Barkbusters and ask about the price.
I'll let you know which handguard made the race.
|
19 Jan 2014
|
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by benniontour
I haven't mentioned before, but as Ted pointed out: The Barkbusters aren't a bargain and you pay a lot for them...as a student, this is an important point for me.
I'll write an email to the German distributor of Barkbusters and ask about the price.
I'll let you know which handguard made the race.
|
If price is important then forget the brands altogether.
They're all just some aluminium bar with some plastic screwed on. None of them are actually worth more than about £30.
Contact Gab at Zen Overland.
He can get you some very good ones for about half the price you're thinking. I've got an identical set on my newly restored XR650 and they work just the same..
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Last edited by *Touring Ted*; 19 Jan 2014 at 20:05.
|
19 Jan 2014
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 672
|
|
the ones from zenoverland.com are much cheaper than barkbusters and acerbis but so so tough, they have an ali bar, and i've crashed at low and medium speed.. barely budged, and saved my hands...
Handguards - Aluminium Reinforced
Ask Gabe (the owner) if they fit a tiger ..
|
19 Jan 2014
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bonn
Posts: 15
|
|
Thanks for the tip! I just emailed them. Hope they can help me!..and they look damn nice btw.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|