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I know many riders do it, but NEVER again will I use the pillion seat for luggage space,  made the trip so uncomfortable, getting on and off the bike was a PITA.
On a 125 Yam I have used for trips I have a pair of 'bike bins' plastic panniers Bikebins - British Born British Made
And by using a universal mounting frame loops(Touratech) on all my other bikes, so the panniers are interchangeable I use Ardcases
ARDcases | Bespoke Motorcycle Luggage I have a pair of the 8" wide, 34litre ones unbeatable price and service, if you already have mounting loops, give Roger a ring, explain the make of loop you have, and hopefully a ride to his place will see him fit them for you.
I went up there from London and received great service and honestly can't reccommend him enough.
I find that there is plenty of room with the Ardcases, with space to spare for 'duty free' or should that now be 'tax paid' items.
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Originally Posted by palace15
I know many riders do it, but NEVER again will I use the pillion seat for luggage space,  made the trip so uncomfortable, getting on and off the bike was a PITA.
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Ah, the dreaded "hoppy dance". It'd make a good Olympic sport.
The trick is get the tank bag at chin level then match this on the pillion seat. The dance is best peformed after a 16 hour 800 mile motorway run that ends at the Dover-Calais ferry (this maximises the audience and the number of dance performances required).
The dance is performed by placing the bike on the sidestand, getting the right ankle above head level then gracefully, like a ballerina doing the splits, launching gently into the gap where you are going to sit. School boy errors include falling away from the bike while hopping, hopping into the bike and knocking it over or the dreaded "nut crusher" where the left leg slips and the seat is "off target".
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I know many riders do it, but NEVER again will I use the pillion seat for luggage space,  made the trip so uncomfortable, getting on and off the bike was a PITA..
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ahhh yes !!
Try it on a DRZ400 with 6' seat, a large ortlieb behind AND a 10l fuel container behind that. HORRIBLE !
I ended up ditching the fuel container so I could move the roll bag further back and then it was a dream. I could almost use it as a back rest, cruiser styleeee.
Having your weight right behind you is actually the best place where centre of gravity is concerned.
It's just a case of not having it too close so your nuts are up against your tank.
The hop hop jump dive hippy dance while getting on and off is part of the fun isnt it lol
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