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8 Mar 2005
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Hey Matt, check out http://www.swmototires.com/ They pobably have pictures of all the tires you might want to try. If your in the states, i highly recomend these guy's, their prices are excellent and free shipping to your door within 2 days.
Good luck!
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10 Mar 2005
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Hi Chris,
Don't know if your survey is still going, but I have continuously used Metzeler Enduro 3's front and rear on my XT600Z over many ,000s of miles to and in India, Pakistan, etc and last through Morrocco, Mauretania to West Africa, all 2-up. Excellent on paved roads, wet or dry, good enough on dirt, sand, etc - always got to where I was heading! Obviously, more specialised tyres like Michelin Deserts would cope with soft sand better - I just struggled!
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21 Apr 2005
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>Don't know if your survey is still going,
Yep, keep them coming for as long as people have something to say and others are interested.
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Author of Sahara Overland II and Adventure Motorcycling Handbook 5 - out now
http://www.sahara-overland.com and http://www.adventure-motorcycling.com
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23 Apr 2005
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Hello chris,
MITAS enduro E07 : i bought my r80g/s with them, i only drive in paris and just a bit of offroad : i feel confident with them, they stick well to the road, seem strong and long lasting, quite happy with them. maybe not so good on wet.
i was talking with some friends about michelin t66, t63 : they don t seem to stick to the road so well, no one feels really confident with them especially on wet ... and they may not last so long.
metzeller enduro 3 & 4 : used on my trip, excellent grip on road, wet, a bit less on offroad (they are less knobby) and last long : 15 - 20 000 kms on my trip (europe, central asia)
metzeller karoo : great offroad and also on road but last short : 7 - 8000 kms on my trip (pakistan india)
vee rubber, forgot the model (bought in iran) : strong but no so good grip on road, wet, offroad but last long.
happy trails
nb : you made an interesting survey about which bikes people use to travel, could you pls send it to me again, thanx in advance, cheers
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28 Apr 2005
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Front: Pirelli MT21
Rear: Pirelli MT21
Bike: Honda Transalp
Rode 2 honda transalps from London to Cape Town (2004 - 2005) down west coast of Africa.
One puncture (a nail) in total. Found the tyres easy enough to remove when I did change them.
Front tyre lasted approx. 14 000 miles
Rear tyre lasted approx. 7 000 miles
Would definitely use them again.
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27 May 2005
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Using T63s on both Teneres at the momnet wthey were great on roads and the rocky tracks in the atlas and are equally goo on the chalk and mud as well. I would recommend them.
Charlie
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31 May 2005
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Hola,
When in Rome ....
Just back from S. America and tires were readily available in any good sized city despite what you hear. Often in the big cities there will be whole motorcycle neighborhoods where all the stores sell motorcycle stuff including tires(could be several blocks long).
Tires are cheap. Pirelli tires are made in Brazil and go for around $35usd a copy. I used MT60 front and rear. Good for 5K at the rear, more on the front. 60/40 on-off road design but they hold well on the asphalt. No need for speeds above 70mph anywhere on South American roads. Nice to have some traction in mud and gravel when the road turns bad for any reason which it always does. It was also possible to order tires if they were not in stock with a couple of days wait. No worries about tires if you arent picky. Bill.
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10 Jun 2005
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Salisbury to Cape Town 600 tenere. Pirelli MT21 front & rear. Front did 21000 miles, rear 18000. Nil punctures front but 4 rear. Good tyres for trip taking into account the many different surfaces you encounter throughout Africa.
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1 Jul 2005
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Michelin Anakee 90/90-21 & 130/80-17 on Suzi DR650SE, road use only, mixed use, some with luggage, some commuting.
Rear about 15500 km. bald on 1/3 of circumference, about 2mm left on the remainder, not sure why, didn't lock up the wheel that much. One puncture.
Front 17000km, 1-2mm left. One puncture (small wood splinter).
Both replaced with Mitas E07, 110 Euro for both.
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16 Jun 2006
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Originally Posted by beddhist
Michelin Anakee 90/90-21 & 130/80-17 on Suzi DR650SE, road use only, mixed use, some with luggage, some commuting.
Rear about 15500 km. bald on 1/3 of circumference, about 2mm left on the remainder, not sure why, didn't lock up the wheel that much. One puncture.
Front 17000km, 1-2mm left. One puncture (small wood splinter).
Both replaced with Mitas E07, 110 Euro for both.
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Have now done the loop GB-Scandinavia-Baltics to Germany, plus some other trips, mostly loaded heavily. I'm very happy with the Mitas, good grip on the road, wet or dry. Haven't really done any mudplugging, only dry gravel. My skills are probably more limiting than the tyres there...
Rear has been replaced after 22000km, front is still fitted after 20000km, will probably last another 2-5000.
Tried fitting them to my R100GS, but couldn't get a tubeless version, despite Mitas web site listing one. Go figure...
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30 Jun 2006
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Bike - CCM 600, Tyres - Pirelli MT21
Quick 2000 mile trip to Alps and back including riding 10 or so of the mountain passes in the Grenoble area. Tyres just about new when I left. Front still ok (about half worn) but rear totally shot. Upside - great wet grip for a knobbly - I did just about 600 wet miles in one day with no "moments".
Interestingly the front knobbles have worn evenly whereas all my Michelin Desert front knobbles have worn into a kind of wedge shape.
Some of the other MT21 reports quote much higher milages but I'm not hard on tyres and I'm not sure how I could extend what I got by much.
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16 Jul 2006
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Trailmax
The Dunlop Trailmax tyres on my KLE500 lasted 1,500 miles! Felt appalling when they got hot something akin to getting a flat (which I did). I spent about half an hour off-road on them and they seemed OK, but couldn't really test them as they obviously didn't last long enough. Would not recommend them, except for weekend off-road enthusiasts. 1/10 
Currently trying Avon Distanzias which certainly look up to the job. Haven't taken them on a long run yet, so nothing to report yet.
Update: Just put 2,500 miles on my Avon Distanzias and they look fine. Felt pretty good too and handled alpine mountain passes and German hail storms with great ease. They are a little vibby though, but that can be ignored. 7/10
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4 Nov 2006
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Rear has been replaced after 22000km, front is still fitted after 20000km, will probably last another 2-5000.
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OK, have gone through another Mitas tyre, rear lasted again more than 20000km, front 29000km.
Unfortunately, due to a stuff-up by the Turkish dealer I now have a Metzeler Tourance. Looks more like a road tyre to me and the bike oversteers a little, which I don't like. My friend Mesut assures me that this tyre should last even longer. Time will tell...
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Im using Metzeler Sahara 3's on my XT600E.
Good grip on dry roads but they do feel rather "buzzy".
They feel slippy and dont give me any confidence in the wet though.
Were very good on muddy fields, firetrack and gravel.
For road only there is no point, for dirt biast though, the TCK80's are better.
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Anakee ft/rr, good road tires
Tourance ft/rr, good road tires, long lasting
Scorpion ST ft/rr, good road tires
MT60 rr, a road tire, mileage sux
Levorin Dunas rr, a road tire, mileage sux
TKC80 ft/rr, great all-round tires, ft is long lasting
Mefo Explorer99 rr, reasonably long lasting, good all-round tire
Kenda 270 rr, mileage sux, don't like the feel
MT21 ft, good on and off road, low mileage
D606 rr, good on and off road, low mileage
Trail Wing (big bike design) ft/rr, good road tires
Trail Wing (midsize bike design) ft/rr, good road tires, resonably long lasting
IRC GP110 ft/rr, reasonably long lasting, inexpensive, my favorites all-round tires
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