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2nd spare tyre on Landy Disco hood

Hi,

can anyone recommend a way to mount a second spare tyre on my Landrover Discovery (except on the roof, of course)?

Is there any fixing plate for the front hood available?

Or is it ok to secure the tyre with straps on the hood?

Many thanks,
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The hood is not a good place for a spare, it may work on a Defender, just! but it's a different story on a Disco.

Visibility is greatly reduced and there are issues with the strength of the bonnet, it will take one hell of a beating. If you would like to see what it looks like stick your spare on the bonnet and you will soon see that it's not a good idea.

If space is an issue inside the car, I'm afraid the roof is your only other option unless you want to have someone make you up a double spare wheel carrier which I think will present you with a whole new set of challenges

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Good link, thank you.

The double-spare option in the back of the DiscoIII is what I'd want to get for my DiscoI if it was available.
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My half-pennies worth...
Fit decent tyres, with the right weight rating, and drive carefully... and you shouldnt need a second spare.
I had 1 puncture in 34 000km, and that was due to driver error - mine!!!

Double tyre carriers look great, i'm just not sure most overlanders need them.
In my experience, wherever the roads are really bad there are useful fellows every 10miles who can fix a puncture in no time at all.

In 4 years commercial overlanding and a trans-Africa since -I have only once needed a second spare. That was when an Indian retread delaminated in Baluchistan....
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Hi Graham,

we just drove from Ruacana Falls to Cahama (ca. 200k) in Angola and had a punctured tyre early in the morning.

The road continued to be hell with rocks and sharp stones without end. Took us 15h, way after midnight, incl. tyre repair and getting stuck in mud twice.

There were rarely people, only two villages without phones or workshops on the way.

It was then that I developed the thought of carrying another spare tyre when we continue through the Congos, Gabon, Cameroon, CAR, ...
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Put inner tubes in all your tyres and carry a couple of extra spare inner tubes, some rubber tyre patches, glues, etc. Even staked sidewalls can be bush fixed until you can replace the tyre. Inner tubes also allow you to inflate the tyre with a low volume pump - even a hand or foot pump - you cant do that with tubeless tyres as they need large volumes of air to re-seat the beads.

If you are doing really hard tracks its the only way to go. Tubeless tyres are a real step backwards for serious 4x4 users.
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I don't agree with Roger. The problem with tubed tyres is that if you're somewhere where you have to drop the pressures, the tubes can move on the rim with the result that the inner tube valve gets sliced off with the inevitable result. The other problem is that any dirt between the tyre and the tube will puncture the inner as will any damage to the inner surface of the tyre. By all means take take some inner tubes as they can (very occasionally) get you out of trouble when you've damaged a tyre but the way to go is tubeless IMHO

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I'd vote for tubeless as well, I've had several punctures attributed directly to sand getting in and blowing the tube.
personally I pick a tyre with strong sidewalls and plenty of plies to resist punctures as much as possible in the first place, a single spare and a inner tube just in case. I also carry a couple of cans of tyre weld, and most of all I always try to keep clear of anything that might damage the tyres - not always possible but its a start.
A friend has one of the puncture repair kits (I think ARB do them and the usual UK overland suppliers) - used to very good effect on the last trip and no need to take the tyre off.
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tyres

Zero punctures from Holland to Cape Town via west coast on tubeless NEW BFG M/T !
5 punctures back from Cape Town to Holland via east coast on the same but worn BFG M/T

I totally disagree with Roger that tubes are the way to go. I can let the tubeless down to 0.8 bar no problem what so ever. All punctures could be repaired with plugs from the outside. The one time I removed the tyre from the rim to check the inside, I could re inflate it with my standard airmax 70l/min 12V compressor without any tricks or problems. If it does not inflate, pull a strap over the centreline of the tyre or use bicycle innertubes as seals.

Never put tubes in tubeless tyres! They are often not compatible.

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my 93 defender had 7.50*16 bridgestone mud duellers which were fab and tubeless
the lwb rims they were on required tubes however, as i assume all older landy wheels do???
after maybe 30000 they started getting lots and lots of tiny pinpricks in the tubes, all five. drove me nuts until i replaced all the tubes at once, then no more problems
i thought the only danger with tubing tubeless tyres was they'll almost instantly deflate if punctured? i had no problems with those tyres on that vehicle apart from that period of many many slow puctures for the 60k tyre life
all slightly off topic tho soz

how much in the way would a tyre only be if you strapped it to the front bumper?

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