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8 Nov 2008
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40.10 w engine replacement
Hi all
converting 1993 iveco 4010w driving down to asia not sure about engine.
Contacted Iveco do not supply whole lump only parts? probably because its pre euro etc....
Does anybody know if a later engine would fit, would also like to keep timing chain and maybe upgrade to 2.8.
Or does any body know where i can locate a low mileage lump of same type? or do I just service and hope? Engine has done about 120 k.
any and all advice would be welcome
thanks Mark
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Engine Swop?
Hi Mark,
What makes you think you need to change it? Is it not in very good health? 120K, if that’s genuine and assuming it’s been looked after is nothing.
My preference is to always keep things as standard as possible. If you swop it for a non standard replacement and with an engine of unknown history IMHO that’s asking for hassle.
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9 Nov 2008
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I agree with Russ. 120k is just run in.
If you have a non standard engine, it just makes things so much harder if something does go wrong. Most manufacturers use the VIN nowadays to identify what parts are required - if you are in the middle of nowhere with language problems then any parts supplied will probably be for the original engine.
Engine swaps are always twice as expensive as the quotes, its rare that everything "fits" at the first attempt and you end up having to relocate other bits to accomodate a different engine, eg; new engine mounts, clutch lines, brake lines, radiator, heater..........as you move one thing you have to move another. Some can be absolute horrors.
If the engine feels tired then have it thoroughly checked over before you head down the new route. Compression tests, fuel system, timing, etc.
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10 Nov 2008
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thanks for the wise words I have a bit f a knocking coming from the bottom end which is a little worrying But I suppose Il never know without a strip down will change the oil etc and generally tested as a first stop
thanks mark
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24 Nov 2008
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Keep it (almost) standard
Hi.
There is a 2.8l unit from around the same period, maybe a little more recent. The chain system bolts straight onto it because the block is the same.
However I've heard bad stories about the bored out 2.8 engines; walls too thin, heat too much etc. better stay away.
However if it’s power you’re after there is an intercooler retrofit that goes straight into any Daily. I can’t remember the name but I’m sure google will help. With an intercooler you can up the injection and get a bit more power without danger (I guess it depends how much boost you put in)
More power won’t get you there faster, but it might help in the soft stuff (how much will you really meet?)
You might as well keep it as it is. Dailys are slow; when you’re driving around in Europe, it’s a pain.
Once you’re away from the frenetic “got to be there NOW” western European mentality, and off the main arterial roads, the slowness isn’t a problem.
How long have you had it? They’re bloody clattery, noisy engines anyway; maybe you’re just not used to the racket it makes.
I guess it depends how mechanically confident you are. The owner’s manual shows a great strip down procedure that wouldn’t be too hard to follow, just not in the wild.
Wanting to radically reduce the possibility of engine trouble we had a complete rebuild done before setting off to West Africa.
A superb engine refitting factory near Turin did the whole thing including 24 hours on a test bed for 3000€ cash – no VAT!
What hurt was that while the engine was out it was so much easier to do the little things that niggled (wires rerouted, new fuel hoses, work on the steering rack), that the supplementary labour bill was higher than the engine rebuild! D’oh!
Get a spare set of radiator hoses and clamps before you go, those funny curves are difficult to duplicate with what may be available locally. (not that I’ve heard of anyone having trouble).
When are you off?
Luke
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mine made a right rackett at tick over, I thought it was the flywheel centre bearing. Very cheap but expensive to replace as you have to remove the flywheel with all that entails. replaced the clutch at the same time. it turned out that the idle speed was to low. does your knocking increase with the engines revs?
The keep it standard gets my vote
Graeme
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