I am looking at getting ready for a Sahara/West Africa trip next year in my HJ60.

Can anyone advisse me on the GVW and payload of this vehicle (1987, straight 6 4.0l diesel?)

I have found info on the VX in Tom Sheppards "Vehicle Independent Expedition Guide" but nothing for the HJ.

I am looking at this for two reasons. Firstly not to overload the suspension (- which I will almost certianly upgrade to OME) and secondly with regards using a hi-lift jack or an inflatable air-jack. I presume that I would need a 3 or 4 tonne (probably the 4) lift capacity on the bag....


any advice and /or opinions would be most welcome

A Toyota dealer/garage will be able to tell you. It will also be detailed in it's Haynes manual.

I would have thought that a little searching on the internet will also yield your information.

Sam.

Have no direct experience on the HJ 60, but on the HZJ-75 the book says max 980kgs payload(including full fuel tanks, 2x90l diesel). To my knowledge the engine and suspension on the -75 is practically the same as the -60 (?).

This is theory - in practice we regularly put 1300-1400 kgs payload on the -75 without trouble. I'd say youre safely within limits if you consider max 1000 kgs including fuel, when desperately needed you can go 100-200 kgs over this to take on extra fuel. The weakest link at this weight are the rear tires. On tarmac you have to watch your speed to avoid bursting due to overheat.

The empty box is around 2-2.5 tons, a max wt of 4 tons is sufficiently conservative. As you're not going to lift both axles at once (you'd need two jacks for that anyway), a 2.5 ton jack is sufficient. (All such equipment carry a 50-100% safety argin, so a 4 ton jack is a bit of an overkill)



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Happy Travels,
Andras

FJ Expeditions

Did not find HJ60 specs, but here are the HZJ 75 official figures: http://www.destoop.com/trip/1%20PREP...cification.htm



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Happy Travels,
Andras

FJ Expeditions

Andras/Sam

thanks for the reply. Interesting link that you used Andras.

I am waiting for Royal Mail to deliver my Haynes manual (can't say too much about them as I work for Post Office....) hopefully the info will be in it.

Thanks again

Paul

Andras/Sam

thanks for the reply. Interesting link that you used Andras.

I am waiting for Royal Mail to deliver my Haynes manual (can't say too much about them as I work for Post Office....) hopefully the info will be in it.

Thanks again

Paul

Hi Paul, take a look at the Jackall. Same as a Hilift, but rated higher. Four of us hanging on the handle lifted each end of my 5T Iveco to put sand plates under!
Good piece of kit
Luke

I was amazed but that's all that's recommended in the owners manual. That 400kg includes fuel and any passengers.

In practice though we carried a over a tonne with heavy duty springs on the back, and extra leafs in the front all the way to cape town (from london) - and snapped a rusty key spring in the front in Namibia.

75 and 60s have completely different front suspension and ratings, They are designed for completely different objectives. (the 75 is a load carrier, the 60 was built for comfort!)

Andy

bear in mind 3 rear passengers ads up to about 1/4 ton so add that to your payload weight. I ran a trip called the gambian school run last year using two H60s. We were carrying around 3/4 ton school books between the two vehicles, 2 crew members to each, plus personal kit, spares and at out heaviest 60 ltrs of fuel in jerries and 80 ltrs water to each vehicle. I have no idea what the payload was, I didn't dare find out but nothing else would have physically fittted in the vehicles, and the fuel was on the roof.

The biggest problem we had wasn't the vehicles giving up under the strain, hit a rock in an H60 and you are more likely to shift the earths orbit than break it. The main problem was simply getting bogged because of the weight, even running with the tyres at 15 PSI.

MY own experience mirrored that above, I had two massive blowouts on XS tyres of indeterminant age and history on the Nouadhibou Nouakchott rd ('scuse my spelling there!) and we had a load of other less impressive punctures.

we were under time presure as well so were 'making progress' a bit more than is desirable but still didn't break anything on the suspension.
The long high speed haul through europe on the way back did break my gearbox though!! it would appear these boxes overheat quite badly if you are pressing on, you can feel the base of the stick getting hot.

Andy
TLC H60
Mitsi L200

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