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Here ya go:


this is the adaptor bit (# 18) that you need on the side of the gearbox, it replaces a little external pipe bypass thing.




the Td5 "euro" coiled pipe




the V8/military "proper" cooler and bracket




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Here is another R380 cooler, listed as the non v8 ones (so i assume 4 cylinder diesel civilian Tdi's), slightly different shape, like the ZF auto cooler really.





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If you needed the full wolf parts list, any LR dealer should have them, they're not "secret" so no reason for not giving you them, but i think most of the bits are listed above.
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Jims right on the ball - go for the R380 - much better box than the LT77 - good to see you get the latest suffix L - the gearbox oil cooler isnt essential - but if your working the vehicle hard then worth considering.

with the gearing - go with the 1.410 as ashcroft and Jim mention - its a nice mod - the vehicle will cruise better and you might get a fuel consumption improvement too (depending on which way the winds blowing!)

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Nicely explained, any idea on the cost/difficulty of fitting an oil cooler?

Also, is there a way to plumb an R380 oil cooling pipe into a disused 300tdi engine oil cooler (i.e the one to the left of the radiator)?

I've fitted a TGV which has it's own integral system so the oil cooler on the rad is disconnected and going spare - is this idea worth a try or more trouble than it's worth?
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Nicely explained, any idea on the cost/difficulty of fitting an oil cooler?
Not sure about the costs, knowing LR prices the pipework will be silly! you could always go to somewhere like Pirtek (also expensive though) and get some custom ones made up.
difficulty: fairly easy, just a case of jiggling the pipes in place and bolting up.

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Also, is there a way to plumb an R380 oil cooling pipe into a disused 300tdi engine oil cooler (i.e the one to the left of the radiator)?

I've fitted a TGV which has it's own integral system so the oil cooler on the rad is disconnected and going spare - is this idea worth a try or more trouble than it's worth?
I'm currently saving for a TGV too!

I'm not sure what sort of operating temparatures we're looking at, but at a guess, i'd have thought that the gearbox oil would be much cooler than engine oil, and if you ran it through the radiator you might find that the oil actually gets heated up (by the coolant) as opposed to cooled down like the engine oil does.

FWIW i got a genuine wolf cooler off of ebay for about £15 a while back, brand new, so if you keep your eyes peeled you can pick them up.
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R380 is the best,by far.in manual.

I'm gonna rebuild my rigg to autobox though
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FWIW i got a genuine wolf cooler off of ebay for about £15 a while back, brand new, so if you keep your eyes peeled you can pick them up.
Cheers Jim, guess I'll keep an eye on the auctions.

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I'm currently saving for a TGV too!
The TGV is excellent by the way, new life in the old dog! If you invest in one make sure you get a savvy fitter or some very comprehensive instructions - it's not the straightforward swap it's held out to be.
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Hi Richard,
im interested to hear your opinions on the TGV - ive been mulling over converting a 110 - what has it cost you all in ?

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I looked at the TGV which seemed highly desirable but dismissed it on the basis that the manual R380 box can handle the torque, but only just...thought that this brinkmanship was not a good idea for desert use, that's just me though.

Apparently a lot of people use the TGV with a ZF (I think) auto box, possibly from the P38 Range Rover.

Also I believe that the TGV is no longer made due to emission regs in Brazil, and I was not impressed with future spares availability.

I decided to stick with the 300tdi and run as light as possible.

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