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Has anyone found the yanking steering from left to right technique when pushing though deep soft sand works?

Some local drivers do it - I always forget to try probably because at the time it feels like it will make things worse.

The theory is it clears sand away from in front of the tyre which gets in the way - or so I've been told
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Thats a new one on me , the idea with sand is to try and "float" over top of it lower tyre pressures to increase footprint and drop ground pressure , swing wheel about will just disturb sand more and dig you in . When stopping on sand try and do so gently so not to build up wedge in front of tyres which will require increased power to push thru/over HTSH
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Mud yes, snow yes, sand no.
Heard about it, tried it, but never found there to be an appreciable advantage from it on sand. Maybe I wasn't near enough getting stuck each time I tried.
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Hi

Have tried it in deep sand in my iveco 4x4 but i only seem to remember when i know i need all the help i can get, so will try anything,it seems to have helped but didn`t want to go back though the same sand just to see if it didnt help.

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Not sure chris. Personally have never actually got "stuck" in sand, touch wood.
However, the first time we planted tyres on Erg Chebbi. My bro in a disco, road tyres, me in defender 110 with BFG mud terrain. He grounded within 6ft, (we had both read that road tyres should out perform off road tyres.) Anyways, he dug out, delflated and never had another problem, i didnt need to even deflate, although i did later just to see effect (even better traction) and never experienced any problems.
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Has anyone found the yanking steering from left to right technique when pushing though deep soft sand works?
Sure, I tried that technique several times. It worked fine when I was really stuck is powder sand and even deflating tires below 1 bar did not seem to help. I just switched to low gear in my LC80, turn the wheels a little bit from right to left and did not exaggerate with acceleration. Libyans did it almost every time they were stuck, looking confused when being offered kinetic rope .

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There are different types of sand hard dew filled morning sand , soft midday hot sand, bulldust, big bowls of talc, and each deserves a separate technique. There are occasions when I have found it worked, mainly when in deep ruts to try and catch the edge, works better in half dried clay, but I'm not a fan in sand as momentum is god and playing with the wheel only detracts from that.
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True, if one has momentum better not waste it with yanking its steering. I thought more about trying to gain some momentum after being completely bogged in soft sand. Also true, depends on type of the sand. It will probably not work in a sort of whitish powder sands (talc?), in that dreadful terrain only maintaining momentum seems to work. Lately, going through a pit of such talc, all 220 hp of a FZJ80 was enough to make some 25 km/h
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For sand driving 2nd or 3rd gear in low range. keep the revs up.
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Could you please define deep sand? How can you tell its not just that easy shallow stuff?

I recently tried driving up a dune slowly till it just about stopped (having read this thread and wondered ) She moved forward about 20mm every few seconds. Then tried steering left and right, and that same slow movement continued, so no different.

I thought that "technique" was for mud tyres in ruts when there is a better firmer surface on the rut sides than the squishy mush in the rut bottom? I haven't driven much on sand but can you get a firm enough crust on the sides to get more grip with lock applied?
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