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6 days in Croatia
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My Wife and I are planning a 6 day trip to Croatia in early September '13 and I was hoping you may have some advice. We only have 6 days before heading to England to visit friends and we are hoping to hit the highlights and a few hidden gems along the way. My wife is new to travelling on a moto and we will be riding pavement from Zagreb to Dubrovnik, but a little gravel won't hurt my feelings  . The tentative plan is to fly out of Dubrovnik if a one way rental is available. Outside of that we are open to idea and opinions.
As I mentioned we'll have to rent so any feedback on rentals would be greatly appreciated. If someone has a bike available around this time (rental) I'm open to that as well, and I'll be hunting around the Hubb for availability.
Thanks for any advice in advance and we'd love to meet up with others along our little way...
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The coast road down to Dubrovnik is well worth a run, stopping off at a few places could easily fill 6 days (Zadar, Split and the islands). Dubrovnik is a mega tourist trap but worth visiting despite that (Hotel Vis was good). Overall Croatia had a bit of a "touristy" feel, nothing too overbearing but just lacking a bit of reality in my opinion. I spent a few days next door in Bosnia and really rated the country.
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The coast road down to Dubrovnik is well worth a run,
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Please be aware that the coast road used to be (back in 1996) constructed of limestone surfacing material, probably quarried from those big hills/mountains near the coast.
This material is notoriously slippery and especially so when water is added to the surface. In the UK, limestone cannot be used for road surfacing for this reason plus the fact that it becomes worse with wear, being polished by the traffic.
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The Via Adriatica, coast road, is now tarmac all the way. I rode it in 2011.
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It is not that simple
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The Via Adriatica, coast road, is now tarmac all the way. I rode it in 2011.
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Nevertheless, the aggregate in use on that road surface back in 1996 was limestone.
The material to which you refer is the binder which has very little relationship to the "slipperynish" of the highway surface, especially after a few days, or weeks (depending on the physical properties of the binder), of running traffic.
Search for "polished stone value" if you wish to know more.
This is a primer for the subject from which it can be seen that "tarmac" is a misnomer.
Pavingexpert - AJ McCormack and Son - Tarmacadam, Bitmac and Asphalt
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I thought you were refering to the "White Roads" which are common in the Balkans and constructed of compacted hard-core. I suppose due to the ready source of available material that most of the roads in the Balkans and Eastern Europe are of similar construction. I didn't find the road holding of the bike unduely affected but it wasn't wet at the time, it was 35 to 40 degrees but I suppose that could make things slippy too?
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I rode part of the coast road in 2006 and it was tarmac. It was also way too busy for me so I took the inland minor road that runs more or less parallel - that's why I only did part of the coast road!
If you see nothing else you have to see the Plitvice Lakes. It's worth spending a day here just to take it all in. There is a campsite nearby which has cabins - these worked out better for us than two bikes and pitching a tent.
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Thanks for the info everyone, we appreciate it.
Do you think 6 days is enough to see the north east as well as the coast. We're hoping to only ride 2-3 hours a day and enjoy the sites. That being said, I'm assuming road conditions are good and quick travel will not be a problem.
Thanks again,
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As you're going to Dubrovnik and will have your own transport go to the old cable car station on Mt Srd which overlooks the city. Hopefully this ( http://www.foggi.co.uk/trail/trailtr...000127_raw.jpg) will take you to a photo I took from there in 2006.
I would think six days is OK (although in a perfect world we'd always like more!). The coast was beautiful but personally I preferred the interior. One coast always seems to end up pretty much like another and a bit too touristy for me.
Having said that, the Peljesac Peninsular was worth visiting - particularly Mali and Mali Ston where there is a salt works and the old walls from the Ragusan Empire still line the hillsides. We also found a hotel on the seafront offering 10% discount to motorbikes and a fantastic seafood restaurant. Seven years ago now though - will it still be there?!
Have a great trip!
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Plitvice are inland (it's a place to visit), but you have Slapovi Krke (waterfalls on Krka river) just above Šibenik. "Overall Croatia had a bit of a "touristy" feel, " that's for coastal area, inland is more "natural" .
If you don't mind some gravel you can combine coast road with "Velebit" national park (severni Velebit/ north Velebit).
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Whatever, it's definitely not "tarmac".
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I thought you were refering to the "White Roads" which are common in the Balkans and constructed of compacted hard-core. I suppose due to the ready source of available material that most of the roads in the Balkans and Eastern Europe are of similar construction. I didn't find the road holding of the bike unduely affected but it wasn't wet at the time, it was 35 to 40 degrees but I suppose that could make things slippy too?
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35-40, centigrade presumably, is hot but that should make your tyres a bit more sticky, all other things being equal; it can also melt the bitumen which is what is used nowadays in place of "tar".
Anyway, I didn't want to get too much into highway design and construction but just to say that the coast road from Split to the south of there used to be notorious for the skidding of landrovers-painted-green back in those days; maybe there has been some money spent on it by now to improve the skid resistance of the surfacing.
Gravel roads of limestone should not be an issue, there being a lot, lot less grip, by definition of gravel in the top surface.
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I rode south along the coast (as part of a euro trip) about 7 years ago and it pished of rain the whole journey.
The roads were slippier than a slippery nipple and I spent half my trip avoiding dead dogs on the road, half my trip wishing it was dry so I could get my gloves on and off, and the other half wishing it was warm and dry so I could perv at the old German ladies on the nudey beaches.
My one fond memory of Coatia is a bridge in Zadar which was lit up at night time, and also I was in a grocery shop and noticed the workers had their full names on their wee name badges, one of the girls was called Erika Perika........... lolololololol, where's the smiley faces when I need them?
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I rode south along the coast (as part of a euro trip) about 7 years ago and it pished of rain the whole journey.
The roads were slippier than a slippery nipple and I spent half my trip avoiding dead dogs on the road, half my trip wishing it was dry so I could get my gloves on and off, and the other half wishing it was warm and dry so I could perv at the old German ladies on the nudey beaches.
My one fond memory of Coatia is a bridge in Zadar which was lit up at night time, and also I was in a grocery shop and noticed the workers had their full names on their wee name badges, one of the girls was called Erika Perika........... lolololololol, where's the smiley faces when I need them?
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What time of year were you there? We are going to be riding the first week of September and my Croatian friends say the rain should not be a problem.
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'twas around the end of May.
To be fair it looked as if it probably would've been gorgeous if the cloud wasn't about 8 ft above my head.
Enjoy and ride safe, and if you get onto the nudist beaches, post some pics of hot German chicks for us ;-)
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I was there during the first and second weeks of September 2011, it was at least 32 degrees (centigrade) every day. We then crossed into Slovenia and had a thunder storm during the night and one day of heavy rain then back to sunny all the way home.
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