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15 Aug 2016
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Bike 'Disposal' in the UK
Hi,
Im currently travelling with a CDP bike registered in New Zealand, and will be entering the UK in early November. The bike has had a rough life, and whilst is fully drivable, is essentially worthless when it comes to selling it, apart from some of the parts on it (it is a fully equiped KLR650, including safari tank). It will cost me $2000NZD to ship it back to NZ, and around $1000NZD to import it into the UK.
I am thinking about taking it to the scrap yard, after taking some parts off for sale. Does anyone know if I am able to scrap the bike without importing it (NZ vehicles are allowed in the UK for 6 months or so without any tax payable, and it has a carnet), or alternately, if it is possible to sell the bike (for scrap or whatever other purpose) without it officially being imported to the UK?
Essentially I just want to do enough to get my carnet deposit back, and lose as little money in the process as possible.
Thanks,
Mike
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15 Aug 2016
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Mike, has your carnet been arranged and issued by the NZAA?
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16 Aug 2016
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Yes it is. Before I left I was I was informed I could technically discharge the carnet with the bike overseas as long as the customs office of the last country I imported the bike notified that they would make no claim on the carnet (ie if it was imported into the country, or I'm hoping scrapped as well)
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I had a carnet issued to me by NZAA - extended for a further 12 months (in Australia) - which was successfully discharged without returning my NZ-registered bike back to New Zealand.
Therefore what you've been advised - although not adhering to strict protocol - is entirely possible.
In addition, during June this year (2016), I permanently imported the same bike into the UK and re-registered it with the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency.) The cost was 20% VAT plus 6% vehicle import duty of it's verified value.
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Your carnet is irrelevant and not a pre-requisite for temporary importation into the UK, or any other European state for that matter.
Looking at your planned itinerary, the last country you will be passing through requiring a carnet will be Iran. If you have both an Iranian Customs entry and exit stamp in your carnet doc, then wouldn't this in itself be sufficient evidence to satisfy NZAA and enable them to discharge and return your indemnity/bond?
If NZAA require an additional clearance statement, then good luck with this as Iran's Customs officials can be difficult to deal with; not helped by the fact that their official language is Persian (Farsi)!
Finally, if you scrap or abandon your bike in the UK, you will need to notify NZ Transport Agency about this; they will in turn, strike it off NZ's vehicle register.
safe travels
Keith
PS - is Alan Chesterman still the carnet officer/executive at NZAA? He was a bloody stickler for protocol and correctness when I dealt with him back in 2010-11.
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Tired KLR ?
Hello Mike
Just wondering just how tired your KLR is.
I,m currently floating around Europe and may be interested in shipping it back too NZ from the Netherlands.
Got some details on how tired it is etc?
Presume all the general but running gear is tired out but how many kilometers now?
If you want too PM me.
Cheers
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19 Aug 2016
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Mike, i'm Andy.
I can help you either import and/or register in the UK....i'm based in Somerset ....no need to scrap her mate you can store her with us or I will give you a few quid for her, whatever suits....I own a business which specialises in the import / export of vehicles so we know all the bureaucracy - let me know if you need any support....enjoy the rest of your journey amigo, Andy
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Feeling attached to your Bike?
Hello Mike
If you are starting to feel attached to your bike there also the option of shipping from London to Auckland the simplest way with these guys who do one way shipping.
NEW ZEALAND MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURES - Home
They are the simplest way too ship your bike to New Zealand.
Check out their website and you will see how easy they are.
You might want to Tour NZ and find out the KLR is perfect.
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Why scrap it ???
Give it away to a fellow HUBB member in the UK.
If you want to ride it to Liverpool I'll give you £10 for it
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