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Buying a bike for export
I am going to buy a bike in England. It will be from a private seller.
I live in Denmark.
I want to fly over, collect the bike and go back on the Harwich ferry.
Iwill have a bill of sale from the seller but it will be registered in his name.
How can I get insurance to ride the bike to the Ferry and to my home from the port in Denmark. I will also need breakdown cover. I need these for 2 days only.
I do not want to trailer the bike I want to ride it.
Suggestions please?
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Hi Steve
I have sold a couple of bikes to Danish chaps in the past, both Ducati's and have met them at Harwich each time. This worked well for them, as they partied on the way over and on the way back, with only a 8 hour stopover in the UK.
Good fun was had by all and the obligitory exchange of s was done before the paperwork was looked at and the fish and chips bought (by me and there was 4 of them to collect one bike?).
Nice , 12 bottles including the Christmas special and it was from The Hancock Brewery in Skive, where these blokes lived.
The other option is to buy a bike from me, let me know what you want and then you can insure it in Denmark on Danish insurance , fly over and ride it back. Nice mini adventure.
You shouldn't need the breakdown cover, but you can sometimes get this included in your insurance, however, this may only be an option in the UK.
Have a look at www.welovebikes.co.uk and see what you fancy, as I have a nice Pan 1300 and a couple of Tigers that may appeal to you or let me know what you want and I will buy it on your behalf. I can also supply an invoice to the value you request.
We can collect you from Banbury station and you are welcome to stay over and ride back next day.
Hope this helps.
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Chris
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Thanks for that Chris but I cannot insure a bike in Denmark unless it has has its MOT equivelent and I have paid the import tax and is registered to me at an address in denmark.
I think the only way of doing it is illegally. Or do as you suggest and get it delivered to the dock at Harwich and use a danish trade plate on our side.
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You could contact Stefan at knopftours@aol.com he insured me to ride a UK registered bike from Montenegro to UK. Bike registered to someone else, the owner, and without MOT or road tax. All legal. Linzi.
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Sorry, forgot!
Hi Steve
Sorry, forgot you got back to me. Have seen an ad for a company called dayinsure.com. Had a look and there are quite a few conditions, butif you are over 30 and have a UK address, you may be able to get some short term cover.
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In the UK you can't register a bike (an import for example) UNLESS it's insured. You'd think this would be impossible as the bike doesn't have a registration for you to use for the insurance. But... the insurance company will issue the insurance against the bike's frame number.
Give your insurance company a call, I'm sure it can be sorted out.
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If it is a cheap to insure bike I think this might be worthwhile.
1. The bike needs to have a month or so MOT left.
2. Insure the bike in the uk on a classic bike limited miles policy if it can meet the conditions.
3. for this you will need a uk address ( the seller ? )
4. you will need to register the bike in your name at the same address
5 Once you have received the bikes log book with it in your name, email the DVLA and ask for an export certificate. ( Keep your original log book even though they ask for it) in france i told them I had to keep the log book with the bike to comply with french law. was no problem.
6 with the export certificate, you can register the bike in Denmark ( with all that it entails) The export certificate is your international ownership papers.
7. Note you can continue to ride for up to six months on the UK documentation. But strictly you should have road tax/MOT to comply with the insurance.
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If it were me I would just talk to an insurance company and explain what I wanted to do and go from there.
I would not want use someone else's address as I'd be concerned about the legality of it all if a claim was needed.
When we moved from the UK to France on a permanent move I assumed I would be insured to drive my vehicle from the UK over to France but when I asked the insurance company about this I was told that as soon as I left the UK, because I was leaving on a permanent basis, then the insurance would cease. Other companies may have allowed it but mine didn't.
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Bike for export
Hello,
I did somthing similar a couple of years back. I live in Norway, so I flew over. I rented a van in England and collected two bikes. One was bought on Ebay, the other I found while there. In advance I had arranged shipping with NorCargo (Grimsby-Bergen) and I went to their collection centre in London and strapped the bikes to a pallet. I think I paid £150 for the transport.
So what you could do is to rent a van and drive it to the ferry and roll the bike on board, then you don't need to bother with insurance etc.
I studied in England 20 years ago, and back then the insurance followed the driver, NOT the vehicle, which is the case in Norway. So if I borrowed my mates bikes over there I wouldn't be insured, but they would be borrowing mine. Don't know about Denmark, though.
Best of luck,
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Thanks for all the ideas guys.
Tis is a subject that causes problems in all countries.
It would be a good idea for the insurance companies to sort something out for this.
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or get someone you know in england with fully comp insurance that includes 3rd party cover on other bikes to drive it to the ferry port?
probably cheaper than hiring a van or messing about with insurance - once in Denmark though i guess you'd have to hire a van or store it at the docks somewhere whilst you register it?
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Get the frame number from the seller and go to the danish MOT (motorkontoret) and rent some trialplates /redplates(?) (prøveplader) there is an third party insurance included (ansvarsforsikring). Plates are 100kr a day.
Get the seller to meet you at the ferry. Sorted.
Any questions about import might be answered in usenet group dk.fritid.motorcykel
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