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Many thanks for finding that for me - that seems like a very fair option?
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For any traffic offence, the foreign government can apply to a UK court to enforce the penalty. This takes time, is relatively expensive and is labour intensive. They are trying to automate it, but this seems hit and miss. As a result, most speeding fines are not pursued, they save the effort for drunk drivers etc. In a serious case, where a treaty exists they could even apply for extradition, in which case the UK police would come looking for you. For £850 they might chase you via your local magistrates court or "safety camera" partnership, they may not. I know truck drivers who've ignored hours and loading offences in France and Germany and have had the UK authorities come looking for them.
Passports are now read electronically. This means any outstanding arrest warrents can be served at a port of entry. This means if a Norwegian court issued a warrent for your arrest for not paying the fine you'd be off to chokey as soon as you set foot in Norway again. I have no idea if the Norwegian court would issue such a warrent for a speeding fine or what the limit on it's life would be.
I'd say the simple solution is to ask for the terms on the installment payments.
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Andy, I think that is the best option, I wonder what they would accept as monthly installments?!
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Andy, I think that is the best option, I wonder what they would accept as monthly installments?!
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When the taxman came after me for far more than I anticipated some years ago my accountant told me to offer monthly instalments of less than I could afford to pay because they (the tax office) would ask for more than I offered so I did what I was told and yes they did ask for more than I originally offered but as I'd offered less than I could afford it all worked out nicely.
Well it didn't really because I still had to pay it and I know this is a speeding fine but I would adopt the same principal in this case.
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A friend of mine (student) paid 25€ each month.
Do you have to use your passport when you enter Norway? I’ve entered Norway by plane, ferry and car/bike and have not been asked for my passport since Schengen.
As I said I’m not sure what happens if they don’t pay but I know that when a foreigner don’t pay when they use toll-road certain companies make a living hell for the foreigners and they have to pay multiple times the original cost.
When speed limit 60 km/t or less:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2900NOK (360€)
+20km/h 4200NOK (525€)
+25km/h 6500NOK (810€)
When speed limit 70 km/t or more:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2600NOK (325€)
+20km/h 3600NOK (450€)
+25km/h 4900NOK (610€)
+30km/h 6500NOK (810€)
+35km/h 7800NOK (975€)
If you drive faster then the number above you have to go to court and it will probably end up in a mix of a fine, prison and loosing your license.
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it all depends...on wether they want to go back to norway again.
it's highly unlikely they are going to bother trying to track your friends down for an 800 quid fine.even if they did what then?...you just pay it then.there can't be a ban or points or anything.what info did the copper take? passport numbers? licence numbers?
my driving licence still has an old address on it, I no longer live where my last passport was sent...
In france if they nick you in person they'll make you pay on the spot.
I've been flashed by a camera in france and been back there since with no trouble. Been stopped in spain and given a ticket but also heard of being made to pay on the spot there.also never paid it and been back numerous times.
yea, yea one day they just may catch up with me....till then..
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A friend of mine (student) paid 25€ each month.
Do you have to use your passport when you enter Norway? I’ve entered Norway by plane, ferry and car/bike and have not been asked for my passport since Schengen.
As I said I’m not sure what happens if they don’t pay but I know that when a foreigner don’t pay when they use toll-road certain companies make a living hell for the foreigners and they have to pay multiple times the original cost.
When speed limit 60 km/t or less:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2900NOK (360€)
+20km/h 4200NOK (525€)
+25km/h 6500NOK (810€)
When speed limit 70 km/t or more:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2600NOK (325€)
+20km/h 3600NOK (450€)
+25km/h 4900NOK (610€)
+30km/h 6500NOK (810€)
+35km/h 7800NOK (975€)
If you drive faster then the number above you have to go to court and it will probably end up in a mix of a fine, prison and loosing your license.
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holy cr#p, how expensive? the thing is though, how likely are you to get caught? is rural norway crawling with police?
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holy cr#p, how expensive? the thing is though, how likely are you to get caught? is rural norway crawling with police?
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In my experience they are way more sensible than their English colleagues, they find a spot just outside town where the 80/90 kph limit ends and there is a short 70 zone then the 50 in the town itself. If you are going so fast you can't slow down, or don't see the signs I really would say it's your own fault if they do you.
Camera locations seem a little more random but again seem to be close to towns.
No idea about unmarked cars but I'm guessing you won't find those in the far north? Mostly round Oslo and the south?
Now if you want Norwegian style roads with really stupid policing/tax collection, try Scotland 
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When the taxman came after me for far more than I anticipated some years ago my accountant told me to offer monthly instalments of less than I could afford to pay because they (the tax office) would ask for more than I offered so I did what I was told and yes they did ask for more than I originally offered but as I'd offered less than I could afford it all worked out nicely.
Well it didn't really because I still had to pay it and I know this is a speeding fine but I would adopt the same principal in this case.
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Exactly. Offer £1 a week or whatever you can justify (assuming you didn't win the lottery). They'll counter offer and you work from there. They might even send you a form like you get for a loan. Exagerate your out goings and bingo it's a fiver a month. Read the info though, they may actually be lending you the money at some rubbish rate. UK gov doesn't do this for fines but it won't be long before they take a page out of the standard debt collectors manual.
Last time I went to Norway by boat they did check passports, UK isn't a Schengen country so I guess they thought it was the right idea. When I went by road they couldn't do more than random checks. A rider from say Portugal would be unlucky to get caught, but the UK as usual is applying all the rules as hard as they can and has hard borders which increases the chances of ending up worse off than paying the fine over say 3 years.
If you get caught back in the country where the offence occured you'd be lucky to only have to pay the fine. If the court issued a warrent you'll be off to jail until they sort it out. Getting deported isn't cheap either.
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...Offer £1 a week or whatever you can justify (assuming you didn't win the lottery). They'll counter offer and you work from there. Andy
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...and if they don't accept, you could still pay them a pound a week by standing order and see what happens. 
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Exactly. Offer £1 a week or whatever you can justify (assuming you didn't win the lottery).
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I don’t know about the rates in England, but if it’s like here I have to pay 5£ to make a payment to other countries so this will be a very expensive solution.
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I don’t know about the rates in England, but if it’s like here I have to pay 5£ to make a payment to other countries so this will be a very expensive solution.
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Charging by the internet mile? So much for the electronic revolution. 
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