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Andy, I think that is the best option, I wonder what they would accept as monthly installments?!
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When the taxman came after me for far more than I anticipated some years ago my accountant told me to offer monthly instalments of less than I could afford to pay because they (the tax office) would ask for more than I offered so I did what I was told and yes they did ask for more than I originally offered but as I'd offered less than I could afford it all worked out nicely.
Well it didn't really because I still had to pay it and I know this is a speeding fine but I would adopt the same principal in this case.
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A friend of mine (student) paid 25€ each month.
Do you have to use your passport when you enter Norway? I’ve entered Norway by plane, ferry and car/bike and have not been asked for my passport since Schengen.
As I said I’m not sure what happens if they don’t pay but I know that when a foreigner don’t pay when they use toll-road certain companies make a living hell for the foreigners and they have to pay multiple times the original cost.
When speed limit 60 km/t or less:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2900NOK (360€)
+20km/h 4200NOK (525€)
+25km/h 6500NOK (810€)
When speed limit 70 km/t or more:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2600NOK (325€)
+20km/h 3600NOK (450€)
+25km/h 4900NOK (610€)
+30km/h 6500NOK (810€)
+35km/h 7800NOK (975€)
If you drive faster then the number above you have to go to court and it will probably end up in a mix of a fine, prison and loosing your license.
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it all depends...on wether they want to go back to norway again.
it's highly unlikely they are going to bother trying to track your friends down for an 800 quid fine.even if they did what then?...you just pay it then.there can't be a ban or points or anything.what info did the copper take? passport numbers? licence numbers?
my driving licence still has an old address on it, I no longer live where my last passport was sent...
In france if they nick you in person they'll make you pay on the spot.
I've been flashed by a camera in france and been back there since with no trouble. Been stopped in spain and given a ticket but also heard of being made to pay on the spot there.also never paid it and been back numerous times.
yea, yea one day they just may catch up with me....till then..
Tell your 'friends' to act like the rufty tufty bikers we're supposed to be an give 'em the finger! 
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A friend of mine (student) paid 25€ each month.
Do you have to use your passport when you enter Norway? I’ve entered Norway by plane, ferry and car/bike and have not been asked for my passport since Schengen.
As I said I’m not sure what happens if they don’t pay but I know that when a foreigner don’t pay when they use toll-road certain companies make a living hell for the foreigners and they have to pay multiple times the original cost.
When speed limit 60 km/t or less:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2900NOK (360€)
+20km/h 4200NOK (525€)
+25km/h 6500NOK (810€)
When speed limit 70 km/t or more:
+5km/h 600NOK (75€)
+10km/h 1600NOK (200€)
+15km/h 2600NOK (325€)
+20km/h 3600NOK (450€)
+25km/h 4900NOK (610€)
+30km/h 6500NOK (810€)
+35km/h 7800NOK (975€)
If you drive faster then the number above you have to go to court and it will probably end up in a mix of a fine, prison and loosing your license.
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holy cr#p, how expensive? the thing is though, how likely are you to get caught? is rural norway crawling with police?
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holy cr#p, how expensive? the thing is though, how likely are you to get caught? is rural norway crawling with police?
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In my experience they are way more sensible than their English colleagues, they find a spot just outside town where the 80/90 kph limit ends and there is a short 70 zone then the 50 in the town itself. If you are going so fast you can't slow down, or don't see the signs I really would say it's your own fault if they do you.
Camera locations seem a little more random but again seem to be close to towns.
No idea about unmarked cars but I'm guessing you won't find those in the far north? Mostly round Oslo and the south?
Now if you want Norwegian style roads with really stupid policing/tax collection, try Scotland 
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thats seems like a very sensible policy.
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Ignore It
Unless you are planing on returning to Norway, I'd ignore it. Make the burden theirs to get in touch with you. I think the officials have much bigger problems than tracking a foreign speeder.
I would not inititate any contact. You can put his off for months and months.
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I travelled from Finalnd north to Nordkap then all the way south to Oslo in July on my Burgman. The blanket 80kmh limit was ridiculous and I just totally ignored it - I now realise why I was able to overtake every other bike and car on the road but none overtook me! 
I had a great time in Norway, loved the roads and took every advantage of every corner. I'm on a Aussie licence and if I'd been stopped (only ever saw one police car) I certainly wouldn't be paying the fine.
Garry from Oz.
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When the taxman came after me for far more than I anticipated some years ago my accountant told me to offer monthly instalments of less than I could afford to pay because they (the tax office) would ask for more than I offered so I did what I was told and yes they did ask for more than I originally offered but as I'd offered less than I could afford it all worked out nicely.
Well it didn't really because I still had to pay it and I know this is a speeding fine but I would adopt the same principal in this case.
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Exactly. Offer £1 a week or whatever you can justify (assuming you didn't win the lottery). They'll counter offer and you work from there. They might even send you a form like you get for a loan. Exagerate your out goings and bingo it's a fiver a month. Read the info though, they may actually be lending you the money at some rubbish rate. UK gov doesn't do this for fines but it won't be long before they take a page out of the standard debt collectors manual.
Last time I went to Norway by boat they did check passports, UK isn't a Schengen country so I guess they thought it was the right idea. When I went by road they couldn't do more than random checks. A rider from say Portugal would be unlucky to get caught, but the UK as usual is applying all the rules as hard as they can and has hard borders which increases the chances of ending up worse off than paying the fine over say 3 years.
If you get caught back in the country where the offence occured you'd be lucky to only have to pay the fine. If the court issued a warrent you'll be off to jail until they sort it out. Getting deported isn't cheap either.
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...Offer £1 a week or whatever you can justify (assuming you didn't win the lottery). They'll counter offer and you work from there. Andy
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...and if they don't accept, you could still pay them a pound a week by standing order and see what happens. 
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Exactly. Offer £1 a week or whatever you can justify (assuming you didn't win the lottery).
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I don’t know about the rates in England, but if it’s like here I have to pay 5£ to make a payment to other countries so this will be a very expensive solution.
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I don’t know about the rates in England, but if it’s like here I have to pay 5£ to make a payment to other countries so this will be a very expensive solution.
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Charging by the internet mile? So much for the electronic revolution. 
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Cheers for all of the info guys, one of the chaps is apparently calling them today to try and come to some agreement!!
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Also caught speeding in Norway
I'm an American and was caught speeding in Norway back in March. I actually got two tickets: one camera and was pulled over by a cop. I didn't know how much the camera was at the time, but the speeding ticket from the cop was around $800.
Just got some letters to my home address in the US (off of my drivers license) from a collection agency (SI) demanding payment of the money. A fine has been assessed on top of it and now the total amount is around $400. This seems strange and leads me to believe that it is the camera fine. But regardless, I don't want to pay this and am inclined to just ignore all communications from them. I would be very surprised if for that amount of money they would organize any kind of extradition or have the US courts come after me in any way...? I guess I would just never be able to return to Norway...?
This thread has been very helpful in providing some insights, but just checking to see if anyone else has any opinions/suggestions, perhaps from a US perspective?
Thanks much...
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Bad luck....
You are right; the second fine is from the camera.
Did they send you the photo? If not you can ask them to get the photo, they have to be able to identify the driver. If it’s not clearly you on the photo you don’t have to pay, it could have been a hitchhiker or someone else you don’t remember…
Luckily bikers don’t have problem with the cameras…
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