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I have managed to avoid peage on the bike for the past 20 years but use them a lot in the car. More often than not there is no manned booth and only occassionally have I seen one of those baskets for throwing coins into. I'm always conscious of causing a delay but then I always seem to be the one in the credit card channel who gets behind the car whose card doesn't work.

If you are in a high top van you also need to be careful that you don't get charged the commercial vehicle rate at automatic booths. Like John says push the help button - they always speak English in my experience.
Ah! That is more or less what I was trying to describe in a long-winded kind of way!
I was last over there about 2 weeks ago and I don't recall seeing a single cash basket between Calais and Toulouse.
At one of those unmanned toll booth machines I may have even paid as a truck because the bottom set of slots were not taking my debit card, so I reached up on high and used the top set of slots for ticket/debit card/receipt.
Anyway, my main point/question remains unanswered - will those prepaid cards issued in the UK, such as Fairfx etc, work OK in the French peage booths?
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Anyway, my main point/question remains unanswered - will those prepaid cards issued in the UK, such as Fairfx etc, work OK in the French peage booths?
Cant answer that, BUT, you can get a Telepeage transponder in the UK now from Sanef:
https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/

They charge a little more and if you want to use it on a moto:

4.4. I’ve got a motorcycle?
You can use a Liber-t tag with a motorcycle with some limitations, the main one being that to avoid being charged as Class 1 vehicle you must use the manual lane and hand over the tag to the person in the toll booth. They will use a barcode scanner to read the tag and will charge you as a Class 5 vehicle. The main advantage is that it saves you fumbling for cash / payment cards with gloves on but you should not use the automated lanes.

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4.4. I’ve got a motorcycle?
The main advantage is that it saves you fumbling for cash / payment cards with gloves on but you should not use the automated lanes.
So my personal protest campain, that I reported on another thread, is being noticed (not that I have ridden in France for 3 years!) - they are aware of the time nusiance of motos going through toll points.

When will they finally make autoroutes free for motos?

We don't generate vast revenue for them. It will keep us out of towns and villages and encourage us to use the safer autoroutes.

They used to do it nationwide for the extended Bol d'Or weekend for just those latter reasons, but gradually reduced the free area.

It won't cost them much to implement - just stick a post in the middle of one lane so only solo motos can get through.
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It will keep us out of towns and villages and encourage us to use the safer autoroutes.
Ah, well Tony. At my age I start to nod off after a few hours on the autoroutes so I avoid all toll sections and go for the more interesting D roads.
You save money on tolls/gas and get an interesting ride

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We don't generate vast revenue for them. It will keep us out of towns and villages and encourage us to use the safer autoroutes.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to economics 101.

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they are aware of the time nusiance of motos going through toll points.
When driving through these booths in a right hand drive car with no passenger in the left seat I have caused more delays than I have ever managed when riding a bike.
I always stop, switch off the engine usually, unbelt, step out, walk around to the other side, have a read of the instructions, search out the cash/card, do the necessary, inspect the receipt, stroll back to the car and place the receipt in a safe place (so I can find it again) etc etc.
All of this is done at a leg-stretch pace as a break from driving.
One time I ended up in the wrong lane and I had to reverse back out with a queue of trucks behind me - inadvertant, but it made me think.

If such things are introduced into the UK - which seems to be a growing idea according to the politicians - then there will be a lot of left hand drive vehicle drivers doing much the same thing.
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In France it is possible to avoid peages altogether, there are good quality non toll routes you can use.
In the UK there aren't, you have to use motorways, that's the difference.
If you travel a long distance in France it costs an absolute fortune in Tolls, I dread the idea of it coming here. It will be far far more expensive than the current road tax.
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Cant answer that, BUT, you can get a Telepeage transponder in the UK now from Sanef:
https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/

They charge a little more and if you want to use it on a moto:

John
Getting a liber-t tag from these guys isn`t the cheapest option, as they charge a hefty service fee, deposit and set their own £/€ exchange rate
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Subscription Fees
  • a refundable security deposit of 20€ (no TVA payable) for each Tag issued by Sanef ("Tag Deposit");
  • the annual management fee of 6€ + TVA payable in advance; and
  • a non-refundable application fee of 10€ + TVA.
Total up front fee of 39.14€ (including TVA) of which 20€ is refundable when you return the tag
iii. Monthly Active Service Fee
A monthly fee is payable for each calendar month that you actively use your tag in France but only up to a maximum of €10 in a single year i.e. if you purchase a tag in June and then use your tag in July and August, you will be charged €10 (€5 for July and €5 for August) but you will not be charged a monthly active service fee for the remaining months up to and including the following May. A new 12 month period would start in June.
iv. Toll Charges
All toll charges incurred.
All fees and tolls will be collected by direct debit in £GBP. (the exchange rate used in outlined in section 1.4 below)

1.4. What exchange rate is used when my bill is converted to GBP?

The exchange rate that we use is set on a monthly basis on the day that we do our invoice run (usually around the 14th of the month) and is based on the average mid market commercial exchange rate for the month that the tolls were incurred The daily historic mid market rate used to compute the average are sourced from exchangerates.org.uk.
There is a 2%+TVA (equivalent to 2.39%) foreign exchange finance charge when converting the currency but the overall exchange rate is still competitive.

An example is provided below and is based on rates obtained on 8th July 2011.
TVA (French VAT) is charged at 19.6%
Exchange Rate £1 = €1.11520
Foreign Exchange Finance Charge: 2%+TVA (equivalent to 2.392%)
Example invoice:

Total bill in Euros inc. TVA: €100
Total foreign exchange finance charge @ 2.392% inc. TVA: €2.392
Total bill in GBP (converted at £1 = €1.11520): £91.81

This is more favourable than rates provided by a leading UK trusted brand on the same day:
M&S Travel Money (0% commission, £1 = €1.0672): £93.70
M&S Visa Card (2.99% commission, £1 = €1.1131): £92.52
Aquiring a liber-t TAG direct from France has always been a sticking point, as the opperators where becoming less willing to issue a tag to new customers without a french bank account, and the option for existing customers to alternately pay with a credit card was being phased out towards the end of 2012.

However a little research has turned up a potential cheaper option for new customers outside france to get hold of a liber-t TAG without paying the hefty fees levied by sanef UK, and be able to pay the toll costs to the French opperator via credit card. (Albeit consideration to the fees levied by the credit card Co for the exchange rates needs to be considered)
So if anyone is still thinking about getting hold of a French Liber-t toll tag, https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/.../vos_avantages they are offering liber-t tags for free, abeit with a €10 setup fee (€10 refundable on your 1st bill)
However unlike most french Liber-t tags you don`t need a french bank account to apply, as you can pay via a credit card (mastercard/visa)
service charges: online billing charges at €1.60, or paper billing at €2.10 per month only (for only the months you use it + the toll fees you accrue).
apply here: https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/...crire/en_ligne
There are no deposit fees for the tag persay as the initial €10 fee when yuo apply is refunded. The only additional fee I can see for using it, beyond the billing fee & toll costs, is that you pay €3 for delivery.
No doubt someone more fluent in french will be able verify the details of this offer by the opperator.
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