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If you go into Europe. You have to pay toll's and that money goes to the country to help pay for road's. We should have the same thing here.
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Would that be discrimination? In the end we all would be paying Tolls, so, NO thanks
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If I thought for about 5 minutes I reckon I could locate 20 odd uk registered cars within a fairly short distance of where I'm sitting, which have all been resident in france for over 5 years, have never been "control techniqued" (mot'd) here, or registered here, or insured here (or anywhere for that matter) & are free to use the entire french road network for free apart from the Autoroutes which they have to pay for like everybody else (the pay autoroutes in france amount to a paltry 8474 linier kilometres)

from what I read the suggestion is that it's brits, registering cars abroard specifically in order to not pay road tax etc. which is funny cos it's brits here purposefully not re registering their vehicles, to avoid paying for mot's etc & in the hope of avoiding speeding fines...



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from what I read the suggestion is that it's brits, registering cars abroard specifically in order to not pay road tax etc. which is funny cos it's brits here purposefully not re registering their vehicles, to avoid paying for mot's etc & in the hope of avoiding speeding fines...



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The way I read it, is that it is directed toward the 700,000 Poles who live in the UK at present with vehicles registered in Poland!!
The builders' yards all over the UK are full of Polish registered builders vehicles, going about their building trade in the UK - complete with trade names in both English and Polish, contact phone numbers in both countries etc etc.
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Maybe it's me but I don't understand what it has to do with EU as stated by the original poster (John). It is something from the UK and last time I checked you guys are far from being EU...


When you come from the Uk into EU you don't pay anything, so I wouldn't be happy to pay to go to the UK.

And (I can only speak for Belgium) a foreigner who lives here can only have his car here registered in his country of origin for 6 months. After that police can seize the plates/vehicle and the owner gets fined.

And I must also almost completely agree with Walkabout, have a look in France and Spain at the UK registered vehicles that haven't been in the UK for the past decade...

The difference is with for example Poland, that the roadtax there is almost non-existent, they include this in the fuelprice. So the more you ride, the more fuel you need, the more "tax" you pay. This was confirmed to me by a Polish guy in a discussion I had with him about something else road related.

Anyway, whatever happens in the UK is't easy to control as you only have a few entry points for vehicles anyway...
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Tolls suck.... Wherever you are or where ever you're from..

There shoudn't be a tax to move about on the planet you were born on !!
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If you go into Europe. You have to pay toll's and that money goes to the country to help pay for road's. We should have the same thing here.
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The subject is very much more complex than this epetition implies.
The UK parliament has plans already to deal with the issue of foreign trucks running on the roads in the UK in order to make the competition with UK haulage companies more even - the famous "level playing field".
I watched that debate on UK TV and it was very good indeed; it was evident that the MPs who spoke had been well briefed by the road haulage industry and the issue of how to deal with the problem without incurring the wrath of the EU regulators was explored very well.
There is a cunning plan within the draft proposals to deal with the issue that Palace15 mentions.

Regarding cars in particular: they have a right to be here, but not indefinitely. It would be fairly easy to monitor this via the fact that we are living on an island - much easier than it would be to track the 1000s of UK vehicles that are probably running around on the continent (certainly they are in France).

As a fact, only the wheel loadings of heavy goods vehicles cause damage to road surfaces which is one of the reasons that they pay a substantial road fund licence.
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No bloody chance I'll be signing for tolls or more taxes, regardless of who they are aimed at. Shame on any driver/rider who does.
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