Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Europe
Europe Topics specific to Western and Eastern Europe, from UK to the Russian border, and south-east to Turkey.
Photo by Alessio Corradini, on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia, of two locals

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Alessio Corradini,
on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia,
of two locals



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21 Nov 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 44
Through Ukraine, Crimea and to the Volga Delta- Best Route?

Hi there,

Next summer, en route to Ulaanbaatar and back from the UK over 11 weeks, I am intent on travelling to crimea via the Ukraine.

As it stands, we will enter Ukraine via Slovenia, head to Uzhgorod before travelling south through Moldova, reaching odessa and travelling along the coast of the Black sea before entering Crimea from the North, following the perimeter of the country to Kerch and entering Russia via Krasnodar, heading to Elista before the volga delta at Astrakhan.

I was wondering, can this be considered a wise route?! It seemed to me as if I wasn't missing much travelling through the centre of ukraine, or should I stand corrected? More importantly, regarding security and the current situation in the Caucasus, is the route between Krasnodar and Astrakhan far enough North to be safe?

Bearing in mind we are looking to 'get the most' out of the trip, Crimea seems to be too beautiful and vibrant a country to miss out.

Thanks in advance and sorry if I'm not specific enough!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21 Nov 2008
farqhuar's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Oztralia
Posts: 646
Krasnodar to Elitsa to Astrkhan is a huge distance north of any problem area. I was riding down there in July. Travelled all the way down south to Sochi and the Georgian border, then cut across to Pyatigorsk and up to Astrakhan and across to Kazakhstan (in reverse). That whole area is full of Russian tourists having a good time. Closest I got to any sort of trouble was heading west from Pyatigorsk - got within 30km of the North Ossetian border (near Mt Dolmay - which is a huge Russian tourist spot that straddles the border). Well not really trouble - at one point I had a couple of local drunks give me a hard time and demand money from me in a restaurant (no, I didn't give them anything, sweet talked my way out - it's not hard to sweet talk drunks) but that could happen anywhere in Russia.

It's wonderful scenery down there in the mountains and well worth a visit.

Garry from oz.
__________________
Garry from Oz - powered by Burgman
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 27 Nov 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Moscow. Russia
Posts: 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by firstimeflyer View Post
Hi there,
Thanks in advance and sorry if I'm not specific enough!
something like follows:



From Uzhgorod to Odessa - boring asphalt road
From Odessa to Krimea - very boring road in endless fields
south coast in Krimea is an excellent place - you can see fotos from last ride there:
Ноябрьский Крым 2008 - motoadventure - Photofile.name

you can have problems while transiting "Pridnestrovie" region between Moldova and UK-raine

also do not ride lower than direct line Krasnodar-Elista
route via Mineralnie Vodi, Grozny and Nevinomyssk is a sigh-seeing but can cause serious problems.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crimea mountains and roller-coaster in May motobelka Northern and Central Asia 5 3 Dec 2008 13:58
Enduro Crimea Ride Edas50 Europe 7 27 Nov 2008 15:52
England To The Crimea Retarded Rocker Europe 13 20 Apr 2008 20:57
Passing through Ukraine, which route. Nixa Europe 1 11 Apr 2008 21:04
Crossing the Amazon Delta at Belem tmotten South America 0 10 Feb 2008 03:48

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-15
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:25.