Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Europe
Europe Topics specific to Western and Eastern Europe, from UK to the Russian border, and south-east to Turkey.
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Like Tree5Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 26 Jan 2023
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,111
Two weeks in Croatia/northeast Italy. Suggestions?

Shipping my bike to just outside Milan in late May, and I have two weeks before dropping it off for shipping back home. Got a ferry ticket from Ancona to Split overnight, and then I will have ~10 days to get back to Bergamo.

I've previously done the Grossglockner-Tolmezzo-Vrsic Pass section, but would love to have suggestions on must-see things on the way this time!

Things on my list so far are to take the new Komarna bridge and bypass Bosnia & Herzegovina, maybe go down as far Montenegro; the Zadar seaside with the Sea Organ; and the Plitvicka underground airbase. Maybe stop in Trieste on the way back (its history of briefly being an independent city-state in the 20th century is interesting to me). Would it be reasonable to go down as far as Montenegro in that time?

I'm flying in a few days before and out a few days after the bike pickup/dropoff, so I will have time to hang out around the Italian lakes, go to the Moto Guzzi museum, etc.

EDIT: Riding an asphalt-focused bike (Honda Crossrunner), not particularly planning to camp.

Last edited by AnTyx; 26 Jan 2023 at 14:30.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26 Jan 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Iceland
Posts: 96
Hi AnTyx,

No personal experience.....yet, but they say Pag Island in Croatia should be a nice place. I am planning a trip down there for later this year and I am very Interrested in the Majstorska Cesta road but that´s a gravel road tho.
Another place I am planning to see is Ravni Dabar and Dosen Dabar and road number D25 in the Velebit mountains. Also the area between Jasenice and Golubic seems interesting, at least on Google maps.
5 years ago I went to Postojna cave and Predjama castle in Slovenia, very touristic but nice if that are sites who interrest you. Or maybe lake Bled and Vintgar gorge, or are they maybe to far out of your route?

If you go down to Montenegro then Kotor and Budva are main tourist atractions but i would say the Kotor to Cetinje mountain road is a nice drive and there is Lovcen NP what can be interesting.


Best regards,

Rögnvaldur
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 28 Jan 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,377
I highly recommend checking out Bosnia and Sarajevo; I would say that Bosnia has been the most "pleasant surprise country" during all of my travels. Very beautiful countryside, and Sarajevo is a really cool city.

I find the Adriatic coast kind of boring and touristy so can't recommend much there. Kotor in Montenegro is OK, but super-touristy, and you can't ride your moto into the city, you have to leave it outside the walls, which is kind of a pain.

As you head north, you might want to check out Plitvice Lakes National Park, a series of connected lakes. It is OK, but not the Grand Canyon or anything, so no major tragedy if you don't make it.

Personally I found Trieste rather drab and boring, but its on the way, so perhaps worth a stop. My favorite city in that general area is Verona...also rather touristy but it has a really nice vibe (and a really cool roman amphiteatre right in the center. One of my favorite places in Northern Italy is Lake Como, and the road from Como City to Bellagio is my absolute favorite, it is fun to ride and stunningly beautiful. Bellagio itself can be super-touristy but early and late in the season it is actually pretty nice, with no crowds at all. If you're getting there in early June though it will probably be throbbing with tourists.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28 Jan 2023
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,111
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rognv View Post
they say Pag Island in Croatia should be a nice place. I am planning a trip down there for later this year and I am very Interrested in the Majstorska Cesta road but that´s a gravel road tho.
Another place I am planning to see is Ravni Dabar and Dosen Dabar and road number D25 in the Velebit mountains. Also the area between Jasenice and Golubic seems interesting, at least on Google maps.
5 years ago I went to Postojna cave and Predjama castle in Slovenia, very touristic but nice if that are sites who interrest you. Or maybe lake Bled and Vintgar gorge, or are they maybe to far out of your route?

If you go down to Montenegro then Kotor and Budva are main tourist atractions but i would say the Kotor to Cetinje mountain road is a nice drive and there is Lovcen NP what can be interesting.
Thanks! Yeah I did Lake Bled and Vintgar gorge on the same previous trip as Vrsic pass - definitely very cool places. I will check out your suggestions! I think the caves in Slovenia already popped up in my googlemaps-browsing.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28 Jan 2023
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,111
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
I highly recommend checking out Bosnia and Sarajevo; I would say that Bosnia has been the most "pleasant surprise country" during all of my travels. Very beautiful countryside, and Sarajevo is a really cool city.
I suspect that the total time available won't be enough to do BH as well. Maybe another time.

Quote:
As you head north, you might want to check out Plitvice Lakes National Park, a series of connected lakes.
Yup, I will be in that area anyway because it's where the Zeljava underground air base is.

Quote:
the road from Como City to Bellagio is my absolute favorite, it is fun to ride and stunningly beautiful.
I will drop a pin on that one, cheers!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 29 Jan 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnTyx View Post
Yup, I will be in that area anyway because it's where the Zeljava underground air base is.
Well, now I'm a bit annoyed that I didn't know about the underground airbase, because I would definitely have gone to see that!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 29 Jan 2023
klausmong1's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vienna
Posts: 734
It is close to Plitvica lakes.

And the airbase is really nice.

But be aware:
In the middle of the airbase, there is the border to Bosnia, crossing it may cause troubles.

And also really take care about the Signs with mines, they are definitely around off the asphalt !








__________________
www.klausmotorreise.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 29 Jan 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 845
I visited Croatia in 2019, and wasn't sure about the legalities of visiting Zeljava. So I located the local police station and emailed them to ask if I could get a permit or something to visit. They politely replied that no, it was off limits and dangerous, so I went anyway. Awesome place and I note they have cleared the vegetation away from the old DC3 to make it better for tourist photos! The base is awesome but do take the mines signs seriously and stay on the tarmac, and of course take care in the tunnels - they go for many hundreds of metres and if you get lost in there you're properly lost.

Elsewhere in the country get up into the Velebit mountains and try to avoid the tourist hot spots - beautiful towns but absolutely rammed with emmets. Split and Dubrovnik completely ruined. We liked Zadar and given a bit more time would have wanted to explore further inland. The beaches aren't generally great (think Skegness, 1965) but inland is more unspoiled, very friendly, and reasonably cheap.

Italy I'm afraid I wasn't too impressed with. Everyone drives either like a granny or like a total idiot, and they put speed cameras everywhere. I also met the world's rudest, most ignorant petrol pump attendant. I didn't really have an itinerary so should have done more research on places to go, but I accidentally found Orvieto which was gorgeous.
Attached Thumbnails
Two weeks in Croatia/northeast Italy. Suggestions?-zeljava.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 29 Jan 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by klausmong1 View Post
It is close to Plitvica lakes.

And the airbase is really nice.
OK, now I'm super-annoyed!

Oh well, something to do for next time!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 29 Jan 2023
klausmong1's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vienna
Posts: 734


https://goo.gl/maps/4WkJr37UUQSyfJV56
__________________
www.klausmotorreise.com
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 17 Mar 2023
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,111
So, this is the plan so far.
Attached Thumbnails
Two weeks in Croatia/northeast Italy. Suggestions?-336724601_610437714297600_5984285473357767059_n.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 17 Mar 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 845
Split and Dubrovnik are interesting cities, but crawling with tourists. Also the road to and from these places was rammed. Avoid. We thought Zadar, Trogir and Novigrad were nice. Other than that inland is probably nicer than the coast. If you have time Ljubljana is a lovely city and quite easy to see most of in a day.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 17 Mar 2023
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,111
I've been to Ljubljana on a previous trip - the old town and castle are nice, but I grew up in Tallinn, so medieval town centers are not a novelty.

Gonna have a full day in Split after the ferry, and a short overnight in Dubrovnik.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 5 May 2023
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,111
Welp, no backing out now, wish me luck
Attached Thumbnails
Two weeks in Croatia/northeast Italy. Suggestions?-img_6359.jpg  

Two weeks in Croatia/northeast Italy. Suggestions?-img_6362.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 5 May 2023
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Iceland
Posts: 96
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnTyx View Post
Welp, no backing out now, wish me luck
Hi,

I wish you luck and a good trip.
Northeast Italy and no one mentions the Dolomites mountains.
Am I missing something ? I thought the Dolomites where a favorite among motor riders like the other mountain areas in the Alps.

Rögnvaldur
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 2 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Family Drive - London, spain, Italy, Switzerland, Germany arkiboys Route Planning 0 8 Apr 2017 00:23
South Am, 125cc for 6 to 8 weeks brclarke South America 7 8 Jun 2016 10:01
3 weeks Alaska - hiking suggestions Donkey North America 0 4 Feb 2016 11:05
Seeking to rent a bike for 1 - 2 weeks in Italy? Axman15 Bike Swap or Rent 0 15 Jul 2014 19:13
Cape Town to Nairobi on small bikes, any suggestions?! kfukuda87 Route Planning 2 29 Jul 2012 17:27

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Ecuador June 13-15
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:11.