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Old 21 Dec 2011
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With regard to the tacho, if the vehicle is taxed as Private HGV, you do not need to use the tacho.
As far as I'm aware, any goods vehicle over 7.5KG regardless of use must use a tacho and the driver must record their working / rest hours, unless it's converted to a motorhome.

Also from 45 years of age onwards, every five years a HGV holder must have a private medical and renew their entitlements to carry on holding an HGV licence, this can only be done up to 4 months in advance of a birthday, which maybe a pain if travelling at the wrong time. Gp's are charging in excess of £100 normally for these medicals btw.
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The key to Tachos is the use of the vehicle.

If the vehicle is being used for any sort of comercial gain or hire and reward, then it is very likely that drivers hours must be recorded.

If the vehicle is classed as Private Heavy Goods PHG, of which a motorhome over 3500kgs is one of the types of vehicles that falls under this catagory, No tacho is required.

Even a 10 ton truck ( HGV )classed as being used for non comercial use does not need a tacho even though it would be tested at an HGV station.

You can complete and sign a non comercial declaration at the time of the test.

The recording of drivers hours is about use not just about size



If anyone has gone through the process of importing such a vehicle to the UK from germany as an HGV and later having it converted to a PHG ie a motorhome I would love to hear how they got with testing etc and the DVLA.

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we got our truck from germany and it was plated at 75000kg, but is a 911 and can take 10,000kg.
it is a simple procedure to register a truck in the u.k, it took us 10 mins at the local vehicle licensing office with our new mot cert from the local gov mot centre.
you have to go to the same places as the hgv trucks go as they have to jack up the front to check the wheel bearings and local garages do not have the lifting gear.
stay away from phoning the goverment people for info on this as they have not got a clue, we drove into the uk with temp plates for germany and this included insurance as well.
most vehicles can be down plated to 7500kg before you buy it from germany and then you can drive this on a car license depending on your age, tachos are no problem no need to get it re tested as it is not a valid piece of equipment in a class 4 motorhome.
it is very easy to import a vehicle from germany just do it,
i would say good luck but a monkey with one hand could do this unless he has a job on a help line for the goverment...ha ha
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Thanks for all the advice. Assuming truck is suitable for de-rating to under 7.49 tonne, anybody know what the process is. Is it just paper based or do I actually have to take the truck somewhere? Also is it easy to reverse - ie if we do it for a while but then want the extra capacity, can original registered weight limit be reinstated?

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Hi toby.
if you are buying from germany and it needs a tuft.mot. then you may be able to get it down plated.
as for up plating should not need i,t if your mobile home is more than 7,49t when empty and you need to get it mot,d then remove some kg,s from the back to pass.
where are you thinking of going and how long for this helps in the should i do this or that.
dave
whats your truck again and have you thought about a 917 MB with a back allready built, they sell them on mobile,de from construction sites and have a door and windows allready in this would help with class 4 mot.
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Hi, its a uk truck so need to understand uk process for de rating.
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