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The Bedford TM's are to heavy to de-rate to 7.49t, been there and looked at it. You can shed some weight by removing the very heavy army spec load bed but this still leaves you with a very small payload and would not make it worth while.

I've been looking at a Leyland DAF 4x4 from Witham, these can be derated to 7.49t and are a lot more civilised to drive than a Bedford MK. They have on with a factory spec winch which would make a good option for overland travel.

If you're interested in 4x4 trucks then L Jackson (where I think you've seen the TM) have a Iveco 4x4 ruck already de-rated to 7.4t but I think they were looking for £15K for it. Have a look at their website.
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Many thanks for the replies...

Jacksons was where I'd seen the boxed up TM. I know another chap on here had gone down the DAF route for the weight issue reasons, so I'll have another look in that direction (and the Jacksons website again)

In terms of Unimogs, when you say there are nice one's about... I must be putting garbage into my search engine, 'cause I can't find any!!.

Also as an aside..... should I be left with a chassis vehicle... where can you go to get the box made in the UK??.. I've also struggled on that aspect.

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Atkinson Vos Ltd Mercedes Unimogs

The UK Unimog owner's meeting place.

mobile.de - Deutschlands größter Fahrzeugmarkt. Suchen, kaufen oder verkaufen Sie Neu- und Gebrauchtwagen (German equivilent to Autotrader. You can select english by clicking on the appropriate flag, you can search under motorhomes for converted mogs and under trucks for standard mogs. On the motorhome page, Unimog is not in the drop down list but if you leave the drop down box empty and type unimog in the field next to it, it usually brings up about 20+ unimog motorhomes of varying ages / types).

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why an obsolete mark?
If you want to stay under 7.5 tonnes, have a look at the MAN 8.130 and the 8.150 (preferable – more horses) which are perfectly capable for overlanding. CS had one for a while, he didn’t keep it but it wasn’t because it was crap off road.
There are plenty of them on Mobile.de, not always in the under 7.5t section
Found the link: Overlanders Handbook ~ VW MAN 8136 FAE

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A friend of mine bolted the 'troop-carrier' seats into the back, minus one section and had it registered as a 15 seat minibus. It was therefore legal to drive on a car licence and taxed as a car. I believe you can also register one as a camper if it has a fixed camper body in the same way. It was very easy to drive, just like an over-large Land Rover.
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If you want to stay under 7.5 tonnes, have a look at the MAN 8.130 and the 8.150 (preferable – more horses) which are perfectly capable for overlanding. CS had one for a while, he didn’t keep it but it wasn’t because it was crap off road.
There are plenty of them on Mobile.de, not always in the under 7.5t section
Found the link: Overlanders Handbook ~ VW MAN 8136 FAE

happy planning
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A friend of mine bolted the 'troop-carrier' seats into the back, minus one section and had it registered as a 15 seat minibus. It was therefore legal to drive on a car licence and taxed as a car. I believe you can also register one as a camper if it has a fixed camper body in the same way. It was very easy to drive, just like an over-large Land Rover.
Robin
just to be clear - you cannot drive a 7.5 tonne vehicle on a post 97 license without further testing - of course us old gits can

There are no weight exemptions because its a campervan (do not confuse the mot exemptions which allow it to be tested as a class 4)

If you have a look at theoverlander.net then chris's old 8.136 is up for sale again , but as a fully kitted camper now

remember also if you are using ex military vehicles , they may require an export license to take them anywhere out of the uk now
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Philipp aus dem Hanfbachtal - Militärfahrzeuge, Armeefahrzeuge, Wohnmobile, Expeditionsfahrzeuge
has a range of mercs and others

there is also alot of nice unimog ambulances on mobile.de and loads of other man and merc ex army vehicles. You can also find places that do military boxes for teh flatbeds.
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