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29 Jul 2007
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Africa Twin Fuel Pump
At this years HU meeting i was kindly informed that the fuel pumps on Africa Twins pack up at around 20,000miles; i just didn't know this. Mine was approaching 15,000miles. I thought i could leave it and deal with the problem on a cold wet night when the pump packs in, or deal with the problem now.
So as soon as i got home i searched the web, and true enough, there were several solutions suggested by different owners. The one i took on board was buy a car pump and fit that. It seamed to me th most logical.
After visiting several motor factors, i eventually ended up at a motor electrical factors. With the help of their parts book, we chose a solid state pump usually fitted to a catapiller, that had the correct back pressure f 2-4psi, flow rate of 113 litph, and was similar size. Cost £51 inclusive. (the Honda pump was £130+vat).
Then i went to air compressor retailers who supplied the parts for taking the 6mm fuel pipe up to 10mm as on the honda. £3.02.
I have fitted it, had a run out, and it works fine.
At least this pump will probably last the life of the bike, and not throw the towel in every 20k. And i still have the old one as a back up!
Hope this is of use to anyone.
Chris
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fuelpump
same pump other selutionhttp://www.xrv.org.uk/media/fuelpumpXRV750.pdf
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Originally Posted by cihb55
At this years HU meeting i was kindly informed that the fuel pumps on Africa Twins pack up at around 20,000miles; i just didn't know this. Mine was approaching 15,000miles. I thought i could leave it and deal with the problem on a cold wet night when the pump packs in, or deal with the problem now.
So as soon as i got home i searched the web, and true enough, there were several solutions suggested by different owners. The one i took on board was buy a car pump and fit that. It seamed to me th most logical.
After visiting several motor factors, i eventually ended up at a motor electrical factors. With the help of their parts book, we chose a solid state pump usually fitted to a catapiller, that had the correct back pressure f 2-4psi, flow rate of 113 litph, and was similar size. Cost £51 inclusive. (the Honda pump was £130+vat).
Then i went to air compressor retailers who supplied the parts for taking the 6mm fuel pipe up to 10mm as on the honda. £3.02.
I have fitted it, had a run out, and it works fine.
At least this pump will probably last the life of the bike, and not throw the towel in every 20k. And i still have the old one as a back up!
Hope this is of use to anyone.
Chris
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Thanks for that Chris - I'll print this one off for the record. Any more details on the pump? Make, type, part number? Ta!
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20 Sep 2007
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same pump other selutionhttp://www.xrv.org.uk/media/fuelpumpXRV750.pdf
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But not a friendly website....
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But not a friendly website....
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What happened?
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What? no details on your profile?
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I'm yenpowell on xrv.org.
What happened there to you? I assume it was under a different user name as I don't recognise Caminando, although I do have a rubbish memory.
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22 Oct 2007
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I'm yenpowell on xrv.org.
What happened there to you? I assume it was under a different user name as I don't recognise Caminando, although I do have a rubbish memory.
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Hi Yen
I noticed on XRV that there was a clique of people who seemed to dominate parts of the site....full of in-jokes and hostile to others they chose not to like.There was one newbie who they accused of being someone else they didnt like and they gave the newbie hell. He finally left in disgust. There seemed to be more of that stuff, which was allowed to happen. My guess is the clique were friends with the website owner.
There was one called M***l, a woman, who posted the most inane stuff. Nothing to do with bikes - things like "I saw a film with a beginning, middle and end. " Also they had events for the clique such as "Camping Challenge" where the challenge was to go and camp in the New Forest.....hmmmm...this suggested that they werent really up for travel. No reason why they should be of course, but rather Boy Scout-ish. Also a favourite post of theirs was, "was it you I saw on such and such a road, near a chip shop?"
But mostly it was the clique and the little groups who ran the site....I gave it up. To be fair, it might be better now, I dont know.
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I just had a look today - someone is leaving the site for similar reasons to those I have given. Someone in a clique wanted "to kill" him but when he objected, his posts were removed. Who knows how many others have kicked XRV into touch? It seems to be a very ingrowing and unhappy place which is going downhill fast. A pity, because one or two little parts are good. Theres a thread entitled "Voting with feet" all about those who are leaving in droves. Moderators who throw people off for no reason. References to the "hard core" who run the site. Their words, not mine. Theyre still doing "was it you I saw on the M25 etc" posts. Very parochial, very narrow in outlook ;but thats the level the administrator is happy with or it would have changed. The admin. seems to be inadequate. Maybe someone will start a healthy alternative and XRV will fade away.
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In Defence of the ORG.
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But mostly it was the clique and the little groups who ran the site....I gave it up. To be fair, it might be better now, I dont know.
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Hi Caminando...
I joined the XRV.ORG just over a year ago when I got my first AT. During this period all the Guys & Girls on the ORG have been fantastic in helping me prep. my Bike for 'Serious' (Non Boy Scout), trips this year and hopefully will keep supporting me in preparation for my RTW next year.
In the Technical Forums, I have never failed to get a satisfactory response to the dumbest or most difficult questions I've asked... The knowledge base of it's memebers is vast (including some 'Serious' travllers).
Yes maybe the 'Chatter' forums may appear clicky, I may be accused of been one in the 'Click', but that in gernal is not what the ORG is for. I can't vouch for the TA, Vara, Dommie etc. but for the AT you will not find anywhere (I know, I've searched extensively), a better source of information and knowledge...
Just thought I better say something in their defence as they've helped me enormously...
Ciao Ciao
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Originally Posted by cihb55
At this years HU meeting i was kindly informed that the fuel pumps on Africa Twins pack up at around 20,000miles; i just didn't know this.
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...neither does my AT! 64,000 miles on the original pump so far. A couple of years ago I bought a solid state Facet fuel pump, as a spare, online from Honda Trail Bike Forums - it's still in the box!
Oh, and to echo Yen's and Fletch's thoughts on that particular website. I've found it invaluable.
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Sure I accept all that chaps....but its not only me who found xrv to be full of scuzzy gits. But there are of course a load of sound blokes there. Its the weak moderator who allows the culture of a website - and it seems he's hand in glove with these pests. Good luck to him - who cares?
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Hmmm, one person hates XRV the rest love it. What gets me though is the need to sully a technical thread with your gripes about getting banned twice from another forum.
Not to worry.
Getting back to the thread discussion. The fuel pumps on the AT's are known to go and a facet is seen as a superiour replacement, but with all electronic fuel pumps they're one of the few things on the bike that work thier hardest no matter what speed the bike is doing so should be expected to have a high mortality rate.
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Originally Posted by KHLT_
Getting back to the thread discussion. The fuel pumps on the AT's are known to go and a facet is seen as a superiour replacement, but with all electronic fuel pumps they're one of the few things on the bike that work thier hardest no matter what speed the bike is doing so should be expected to have a high mortality rate.
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There are some that dont die and you are lucky if you are one of the few that are good (I was lucky on my rd04 but not on my rd07).
but KHLT is correct it is a part that is expected to die.. like a chain.. I think the other reason that a lot of people go for facets is they are 1/3 the honda price.
My suggestion is if you are going on a long trip.. buy a facet and carry it.. or replace it as you would cam chain, drive chain.. any other major pre-trip prep.
Good luck mate..
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