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Electric Start XR600R
I notice that Pob has fitted (and Wright aspires to fit) a kick start to their XR650L's. Do you guys know whether it would be possible to fit the electric start gear (from a Dommie or an L) to an XR600? I know it sounds wierd, but I'm in a situation where my right knee is not long for this world, and, I've spent lots of money and time overland prepping my XR600.
I'm tempted to buy a new L, and swap over the bits from my R before selling it. But, with CROW and all I don't think I'd get much in the UK for a 5000-odd mile XR6.
Any thoughts?
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29 Nov 2005
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One way or the other it will cost you some money.I would recomend you to buy a 94-2000 L for the best money you can get for your 600.
Do you have a biger tank allready?
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I'm not at all sure you'll get away with it. fitting the kick to the L requires old parts and machining current parts (eg clutch cover) to look like old parts. this is OK cos honda didn't completely delete the feature from the L. I don't suppose, however, that they put a provision for the starter motor on the crank case of the 600 when they designed it in the '80s. check the manual/parts before getting too excited at the prospect!
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Hi Guys,
You are both probably right. Another tack might be to look around for a crash-damaged, but newish Dominator. Take the engine plus a few other bits from this, add my XR kick-start and bolt it in. I then get an L of sorts albeit by a roundabout route.
Oh, and yes KH, I got the mother of all tanks at last, should take delivery in the new year. See my post over in that thread.
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the dommie only had kickstart in 1989 over here. I think it was the J model. ie you'd need an old one, not a new one for the kickstart unless you fancy splitting the crankcases to swap the shaft. not a huge job and quite fun ... ;-)
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Hi Rich, it was my plan to use a newer motor and split the crankcases. I never realised early Dommies had a kick-start in fact. I might look around for one of those new FMX? engines - the supermoto. They are black anodised and look pretty good.
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An easier way is to transplant the whole motor from a XL600 model code PD04 into the XR frame.There are red engines(usually fitted to the LMF model,591cc) and black engines(some LMF's and other XL's,both 591 and 589cc).Of the two the red ones had the best starter arrangement,but either will do the trick.That is assuming you want to keep it 600cc,otherwise the aforementioned NX650 Domminator motor is more refined.All will fit straight in mounting wise,but you'll need the appropriate engine's CDI and carb stuff too.The 591cc motor is more long-legged and grunty,whereas the 589cc will rev a bit better and is probably more suitable for your XR.
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Looks nice and clean! Did you just order new parts off Honda?
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Great job so far!
Did you found a place for the battery?
And the starter button and all that stuff?
Keep us informed.
And the total investment.....time+money.
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Yes I bought almost all the parts off of Honda.
as for investment - does it matter really?
I think I am the only person I have seen on the internet at least who is doing this. That alone makes it worthwhile imho!!!
If anyone knows anyone eho has done this conversion please let get them to post and put up any suggestions.
Basically it is easier to retain the electrics and flywheel of the XR600 and make an adpater to push all this out so the 650l starter gear and clutch can be put in.
The 650L flwyheel weighs a ton!!!
I have to make an adapter to fit everything but I'm confident that it will work.
The stator is being rewound for more power and I'll continue to run the same split power system that the XR600 Australian model does.
The 650L has a much more hefty electrical system in that it is 3 phase and has a massive wiring loom which has a lot of crap on it.
I will be using the XR650l regulator/rectifier and will have that wired to my rewound XR600 stator.
The battery is a 5 series Yuasa which will be placed in the front of the airbox.
The starter switch is XR650l wired for the XR600 loom.
thats all for now
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Fantastic Man. This is great news. Wish I'd thought of it (just buying new bits that is) - obvious really. My 600 is an Australian too - 2000 vintage. I had Baja Designs re-wind the stator for me, and have done lots of other mods to it, so would really like to keep the bike. Apart from a little oil puffing on roll-offs it runs great. However, my right knee is failing often these days (broke my left leg and pelvis 15 years ago, and all this time have been favouring the right leg which has worn it out ahead of time). So I really need an electric start. I'm going to order some parts this week. For now it looks like LHS case, gasket, starter motor and clutch. Is that about it? I've already got a heavy duty regulator / rectifier. I wonder whether you might need a CDI unit with more oomph - the Vortex CDI springs to mind.
I agree about the investment thing by the way - its rarely about that with bikes.
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hey there cugel
I think retinaing as much XR600 as possible is what you should do.
The 650l quite frankly is overweight and non responsive.
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What i mean with investment is part of the budget.If you tell me that conversion cost you less then 300 US,then is possible to do for allmost all xr 600 riders,now if you decided anyway no matter the final cost,ok.
This is my point.
Keep posting more infos.
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cost is not an issue.
the bike must have estart.
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