Kurt and Jacob, I have no preference for a crossing since I never rode through Texas. It just seemed a shorter distance to Presidio. I like to plan loosly and let people change my mind often as I ride multiple days in a single direction. I'll definately take the info about Presidio accommodations and perhaps lodge in Ojinaga or Marfa. But if at the end of the day 10/13 we're already in Mexico, we may want to roll and get into the real deal. Maybe El Mangle.
Thanks for the heads up about the vehicle permits at the local consulate.

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There's not much between Chiuahua and Ojinaga if I remember correctly but then it's a fast ride.

I'm considering taking a dirt road route from Cuauhtemoc to Creel, through Carichi. Did it a couple of years ago. Apart from getting lost for a day (I think I can avoid that this time) it was pretty cool and not too chalenging (except for the getting lost part, lol).

Kurt

Sent you an email with a slice of the map from that area using the GPS maps I found...see my post from several days ago. Hope that helps!

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Will be heading down from NC the 7th via Waco, Tex. to Del Rio and the Big Bend park for the tourist thing - should get to Presidio on the 13th. No camping for me in Creel. Remember the frost last year?? The orange and purple, $7.50 ea., motel was warm and had hot water. Maybe I'll see y'all on the road. Just look for an old Transalp with a greyheaded old bastard aboard. Am prepared to head on down to SA if I can round up a riding bud with the lingo. --- Kurt, still got the S I C K hat?

Grant, I would be very interested in off road riding course if offered.

Jim

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I'm leaving Seguin (near San Antonio, TX) on the 9th or maybe after work on the 8th, and heading for Guayamas,Sonora to meet a couple of other guys coming over on the boat from baja early on the 13th, and then heading for Creel from the west, doing dirt roads to get there, but nothing too radical from what I understand. No real itinerary at this point, just need to be in Guayamas on the 12th. Currently riding solo from S.A. to Guayamas, if this jives with anybody elses schedule, give a holler, would be happy for some company to bum around northern Mexico for a few days with. I'm riding a KLR650 and speak un pococito espanol.


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El Paso is a much busier crossing, I spent 2-3 hours standing in lines there once. Given the choice I will cross at Presidio. But you are right, if you are pressed for time the Interstate is much faster than the route from Presidio thru Chihuahua City.

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update

Cabins are booking fast, get in and book ASAP!

We are going to be over 100 people at the present rate!

Rider Training Course - looking good for a 45-60 minute "demo" course.

For the real deal, full on course, (somewhat customised to deal with our particular requirements - e.g. loaded with luggage!) how many people would be interested in a 1, 2 or 3 day full on course at around US$300 day? Comparable pricing to USA, cause it's a USA instructor. Could be done Thursday, Friday and Sunday if there is enough interest.

Don't plan on riding Saturday, there will be lots to do at the Meeting place (KOA)!

I'm currently planning on being in El Paso to pick up a bike from Skip Mascorro of MotoDiscovery (formerly Pancho Villa) and arriving in Creel Wednesday evening latest.

With any luck I'll be able to get organised enough to leave El Paso Tuesday early am and get to Creel Tuesday night, but since I haven't booked flights yet, who knows!

see you there!

(I'm currently in Munich, heading to Portugal tomorrow for the meeting there, then London for a week, then home to Vancouver, then to CC!) (I get tired just thinking about my schedule...)

One more item - there are lots of subjects we can come up with for the Saturday seminars, and we have some sorted already, but if you have a subject you'd like to talk about on Saturday, please let me know via the feedback form - link below "Contact Us". We want to have lots to do!

thanks!

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I would be interested in the all day training.

Is there any possibility of having a quiet area for camping.

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Grant,

Grant,

You're such a jet-setter. But I'd envy you more if you did all that by bike. Anyway, I'd be interested in a one day course myself.

Andy,

The ride from Presideo to Chihuahua is pretty fast. There's a new (last year) cuota for a lot of it. Also, m/c's go half price in that state. They're so progressive down there, wish we could do that here.

JSherm,

I don't recall anyone camping last year. I fully expected to have the camping area to myself this year. I'm not too noisey.

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No one camping at a HU meeting??? BTW, can someone give me an idea of what is available for shopping at or near the meeting site. Do I need to stock up prior to arrival.

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Vittles and gas can be had as well as trinkets and within walking distance.

Kurt

Okay, this is an open invitation to anyone who wants to come along.

Estimated route

Oct 9 NYC - West Virg or thereabouts
Oct 10 WV - AK or thereabouts
Oct 11 AK - TX
Oct 12 Austin TX - border
Oct 13 border - Creel

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Definately camping. I'll be in my Eurika with my new North Face Mummy bag, unless it rains relentlessly of course. What's the weather in the area this time of year?

Dan ST1100 Advent-Tourist

Kurt,

I check the Mex consulate website for the temp veh permit but couldn't find any info. Can I just walk in and get one. What docs will I need?

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Dan,

The weather is usually pretty good in October. The rainy season should be well over. Moderate temps in the days cool at night. Last year it hit the upper 20's at night but I suspect that was unusually cold for late October.

JSherm,

Go to www.mexonline.com/consulate.html There's a list of consulates. Look for the one you're intending to use. I checked the NY one and there doesn't appear to be any info about Temp Vehicle Imports. Maybe they don't do it there. Ojinaga is pretty small. The office is right by the border crossing, you don't even have to go inside to do it but you will need all your copies (of title, credit card, etc).

Info about what you'll need can be found at: www.banjercito.com.mx. Look for the link Importacion Temporal de Vehiculos. It's all in Spanish, though.

I should be in Ark. about the same time you are. Can't say exactly where 'cuz I haven't done any route planning other than a destination.

Kurt