Sounds good! I look forward to it!

BRILLIANT IDEA

!! Lets hope it can be arranged

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I have done one before but repetition is the best way to rememeber.. I.E.. I would be interested!

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1.Should women talks be open to men?

2.Should the inidividual tent pitches be marked out beforehand?

3.Should the showers be open earlier?

4.Pets: Stay at home, add to roadkill cookout, tolerated?

5.Early morning drunken shinanigans. Just some fun or public nuisance!

6.Should scratch patch be donation free?

7.Should alternative catering be available eg massive BBQ?

1. Where's the need other than curiousity? i'm sure there are lots of issue's with traveling as a woman that don't apply to men an not femmanine hygene but social and cultural.

2. Again as long as everyone use's common sense and doesn't block the obviouse bike route's i don't think there's any need and it's just more work for the organisers (thanks for an amazing weekend BTW, i popped my HU cherry)

3. Dunno about this one, i only had one an was supprised i bothered but if it means opening everything earlier then its more hassle than it's worth to the those few who actually care that much, why not just go every afternoon instead? it's only 3 days! and an overlanders meeting at that!

4. i love dogs and don't think they should be banned at all (and dogs don't just bark, their owners let them) but those that can't be kept under some control shouldn't be allowed. Harsh maybe but training classes aren't that expensive if thats what it takes.
i had a personal collie alarm clock on sunday morning, i was feeling a little worse for wear n only got a few hours sleep before having to ride home, not fun but not really that much of a problem(ear plugs next time)

5. it happens but it's the same as the dogs, if it's the same person all weekend disturbing everyone tell them first then if they don't listen chuck em out. it's just consideration, i was up til dawn every night but i stayed by the fire pretty quite mostly (tho dan walsh does have a hell of a set of lungs on im )...Statues...

6. i put some money in tho i didn't take anything, why does anyone care? it wasn't like there was someone standing their watching dissaprovingly if you didn't donate. i say keep the money pot it's for a good cause and i think people are being a bit pedantic if they think it's wrong just out of principle.

7.why not get a few wire grills or something by the fire n let people cook on it if they want too (like they were, cheers for the baked spud offer whoever you were) saves more organising.

P S can't agree more with the more accesable water comment, it's not great when your dehydrating through admittedly your own consumtion to stumble about only too find the doors been closed (cheers too the guy who gave me some water that night probably saved me a much worse hangover)

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Great idea
I'd be well up for it an it'd be nice to have a second informal transient meet where people could join and leave as they please the only problem i see would be that many people turning up at the same pub/campsite all at once so i guess it would have to be slightly organised.
Maybe a vague route could be worked out an members from various areas could contact local campsites/pubs though i realise this may be detracting from the free spirited idea.
Hate to be so practical but just a thought.

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Hi,

This is pretty much what I think. These things (and I expect Lumb Farm is included in this) are relaxed and informal and SUCCESSFUL because some poor bugger has spent months organising every last detail. You have to have some organisation or it would just be a shambles.

I think the various nights accomodation would have to be pre-booked and paid up in advance like Lumb Farm. If you only choose to do two or three nights then that's bad luck, the price would unlikely be prohibitive anyway. Like Lumb Farm you'd have to limit numbers. As for route you could have an 'official' route recommended by a rider local to each leg. People would obviously be free to choose their own route, but I ride on my own a lot. The novelty of sharing my ride with dozens (or even more!) riders interests me a lot!

I'd be happy to organise a Scottish leg or reccomend a route or research some accom.

Matt

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Although I dont live there, i live very close to North Wales and would happily organise something there. Breathtaking scenary and great roads. Plus countless b&b's and campsites. Beyws-y-coed is a good stop.

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I would very much like to do this, whether wrapped up in a HUUK or separately.

First aid idea is excellent. Agree with above comments that maybe the 9hr training should be done seperately as it will eat into other presentation times.

Maybe have an away weekend specifically for this training course where anyone interested gets together at an agreed venue/camp site whereever and does the course over 2 days.

I'm sure a presentation on all the most common travellers bugs you can get and basic remedies per continent would be very well attended at the HU Meeting; or a breifing on some of the really gross nasties that you could come across; or all the diseases that are spread by flying insects (that will keep you busy for hours); or the contents of a travellers First Aid bag. Also just finished working through "Travel medicine for Health Professionals" and it is terrifying how many things can get you out there...forget about the big five, rather be worried about the little five

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Hi Tim

I agree with much of what you say - yes there were lots of men peering and wondering - yes it was popular with the women - but "challenge " is going too far. My point was to discuss the matter of exclusive meetings, which I don't agree with. But I'm very relaxed about it all.To say that is "not on" is to stifle debate, and you dont want that, I hope.

Put it this way - if the men decided to exclude women from talks/meetings, then women would rightly object to this, and I would support those objections. All my life I've wanted to see more women m/cyclists, so I regret any divisive tendencies in this area, at a time when I think I see a better representation of women in an activity which is too male dominated. You will agree that this year we had terrific talks from women travellers, who were not (I am glad to say) only speaking to a female audience.

PS Nice Morocco site BTW.

So what if the ladies want their own talks.

So what's wrong with the showers open early, some people might want to keep clean.

What's wrong with a bit of order on the camp site, ie: where we can ride and where we can pitch.

I must say barking dogs can be left at home though....I mean are you a blind person? No disrespect, is it needed, more importantly can it ride, lol.

Nothing wrong with a scratch patch..well done to "M" To those who don't like giving up some pennies and feel obligated to do so if they take something....so be it, if you cannot take it without feeling guilty ...then don't take it, Myself, I took some ear plugs ...thanks, and a bungee cord, thanks again and yes I felt like I needed to give back some pennies...so what's the big deal, is that not what the whole meeting was about, taking and giving....

I agree some people were a bit loud at night near my tent....but hey its a £$%^&*() rally for goodness sake, if you don't like it don't come.

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Hi Hikeifulike,

I like that quote in your signature. Where does it come from?

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Any more thoughts about a "ride-out" meeting?; the concept seems to have a following in this thread.

Dave

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Hi

Apologies for going off topic but just wanted to point out a scooter is a real bike, I know because my Tmax scooter was quite happily following an XT during most of the road rideout I was on as it completed over 500 miles that weekend most of it in rain. My other bike is a Moto Morini. Previously I had a BMW R1100RS, the TMAX is no less a bike than any of them. Unfortunately if I ride my BMW or Morini I get nods returned on my TMAX I do not?? shame.

Regards

Robin

Because we all have biases towards certain things, whether we like to admit it or not.. I must admit that I don't generally expect to see a nod or wave (or the Australian single index finger salute) coming from a scooter rider in the UK though. That's my excuse, you'll have to think of your own.