Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > KTM Tech
KTM Tech KTM Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to KTM riders only.
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21 Mar 2006
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Posts: 7
Spare parts suggestions for world tour?

I am taking a 1998 KTM RXC 620 around the world in MAY. I will be gone for about 5 months. At least half the trip will be on gravel/dirt. I have been working up a spare parts list and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions or knew a good place to order them? Thanks.

www.dualsportdiary.com

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21 Mar 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Flagstaff,AZ U.S.A.
Posts: 81
I've had good luck ordering from www.ktm-parts.com
I would start with a basic collection of parts that are most likely to fail:
-spare spark plug (prone to fouling with bad gas)
-spare jets, and a few carb parts (diaphram, and assorted o- rings).
-spare fuel filter,and fuel line
- at least one oil filter (K&N Brand)
-valve cover gaskets (prone to leaking, although you could always improvise on most of the gaskets.
-countersprocket oil seal
Have the bike fully serviced before you leave.And most importantly, go for a test tour before you leave. This will help to de-bug your gear. I have found that a good toolset, and spare parts box is well worth the extra weight and space used up (one half of the left side pannier is set aside for tools/parts).
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21 Mar 2006
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Posts: 7
Thanks...We are going to range in elevation from sea level to at least 12,000. Do you think I should get different jets for higher elevation or just let her run poorly?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21 Mar 2006
Ian Ian is offline
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 443
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000213.html
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 23 Mar 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Flagstaff,AZ U.S.A.
Posts: 81
At very high altitudes you can remove the side cover for the air box. Of course this is just a quick fix, but it will help you make it over the pass.I have found that the engine will run fine over an altitude difference of about 5,000 feet, assuming that the main jet size is correct.I live at 7,000 feet, and the correct carb settings are good down to about 2,000 feet.At sea level I would install a jet two sizes up, and lower the engine idle speed. The vast majority of your trip will most likely be at sea level, since this is where most people live, and build cities.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 7 Apr 2006
wonky's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
Posts: 100
Get Ultra Heavy duty inner tubes and take a bag of spare chain links.....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 7 Apr 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London
Posts: 542
I think you will find your engine runs fine even up to 12,000 ft. I have taken my '00 640 Adv. to over 3,000 m (10,000 ft) without any noticable loss of performance.

Ian's list is very comprehensive - about the only thing he missed is the essential KTM bottle opener! I would also recommend that you take lots of electrical tape. It does wonders in fixing your luggage, mirrors, panels etc when you crash.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 7 Apr 2006
Ian Ian is offline
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 443
It all fits in Touratech tail rack bag, with a little room to spare.

I've got by in the past without some of the items on my list.

I'd include the trick KTM bottle opener/13mm wrench but my Swiss tool and the 10/13mm combination wrench do these two functions.

Gaffer tape is the fixer for me.

I'm currenly working on the idea of making my own multi-tools by welding bits of tools together e.g. spark plug wrench on one end of a tyre lever, wheel wrench on one end of the other tyre lever.

I'll post when I've got somewhere or rejected the idea completely.

Willis: let us know how you get on with your RTW.

Cheers.

[This message has been edited by Ian (edited 07 April 2006).]
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 8 Apr 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: the netherlands
Posts: 266
since u r riding a 620, uuuuhhhh lots of loctite?

get to know ur bike, do all the servicing yourself... this is especially true in africa

[This message has been edited by gozell (edited 07 April 2006).]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12 Apr 2006
Jerome's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Surrey
Posts: 187
lots of good advice , my 1 cents worth:

i think there are 3 issues here - preparation, spares and tools:

prep:

there are many things you can do to reduce wear, make failures safer and reduce the need to carry spares.

- zip tie spokes together so a broken one hopefully avoids a blowout
- slime in bridgetsone extra heavy duty tubes
- put a front inner tube over the rear shock to protect it from dust etc
- fork gaiters to protect seals (mine have never failed)
- fit a scotts steering damper - the only 'toy' id have if i could only have one.
- foldable mirrors that dont break when you drop it.
- fit a scottoiler - doubles chains life. turn flow to max on dirt roads
- travel light.

- er, the second thing is to decide what work you'll do on the bike yourself, do it and list what tools you need to do it, then take them with you id suggest you should be doing your own services if on a rtw.

er, i have a page showing what i wanted to do and what tools are required - www.fowb.co.uk - bike - tools & spares - tools.

i also have a page listing whats failed and why. 30% were dealer **** ups, 40% wear and tear. i list what ktm dealers to avoid.

- spares:

- spare clutch cable already in place and ends sealed

- reusable filters http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Bran...oil_filter.htm if they fit - im still using them after 90,000km, so never have to lug new ones around.

- zip ties

- tie downs

- assorted nuts and bolts - very handy even with loctite.

- re jets - depends on your exhaust system. i had full akrapovic and couldnt overtake alorry at 80kmh at 4500 metres - on a 160. they are tiny. suggest 5 smaller ones and screwdriver 1/4 drive to remove main jet without removing carb.

- length of (same!) chain, splitter and joiner - see sommers site.

- 2 lengths of wire and a small bulb to use as a continuity tester.

- metal hand guards and spare levers (never used but just in case)

- tyre levers and valve remover - practice at home first, not in the desert.

- maybe an inlet cam follower but check for your model. they fail at 40,000 km ish on 640s. i now replace them before they fail.

- gearbox output shaft seal - the orange one - lasts a long time if installed with oil and seats correctly!

- er, id suggest a service before you leave is not good advice - i did it once on a guzzi before going to france - the rear wheel seized at 120kmh in nowheresville because the drain plug fell out. i was lucky not to crash. do it yourself.

- oh, and an account at sommers and fedex.

good luck!
__________________
Jerome

fowb.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 13 Apr 2006
Ian Ian is offline
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 443
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by gozell
since u r riding a 620, uuuuhhhh lots of loctite?

get to know ur bike, do all the servicing yourself... this is especially true in africa

[This message has been edited by gozell (edited 07 April 2006).]
Does this not depend on which 620?

I thought the 620s that do have a counterbalancer have the same counterbalancer as the 640s.

Not sure if Willis' bike has a counterbalancer?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 13 Apr 2006
Ian Ian is offline
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 443
Cool

Jerome's great reply raises some questions:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- zip tie spokes together so a broken one hopefully avoids a blowout
I'd guess you'd have to be careful using zip ties so as not to over tension the spokes.

I saw some clips on the KTM website to hold the spokes in place. On my shopping list.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- slime in bridgetsone extra heavy duty tubes
Can one still readily mend a puncture with puncture preventative in the tube? Be interested to know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- put a front inner tube over the rear shock to protect it from dust etc
Is there then a danger of the shock overheating?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- fit a scottoiler - doubles chains life. turn flow to max on dirt roads
I wouldn't do this in the Sahara. The sand mixes with the oil and...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- spare clutch cable already in place and ends sealed
Just changing to rubber bands from zip-ties holding the spare cable in place to prevent the spare cable from flexing too much with original.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- metal hand guards and spare levers (never used but just in case)
Do metal handguards always save the levers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- er, id suggest a service before you leave is not good advice - i did it once on a guzzi before going to france - the rear wheel seized at 120kmh in nowheresville because the drain plug fell out. i was lucky not to crash. do it yourself.
Anyone know of any on-line guides for lock-wiring the drain plug in place?

Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 13 Apr 2006
Jerome's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Surrey
Posts: 187
4 hours to go before the ferry loads...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
I'd guess you'd have to be careful using zip ties so as not to over tension the spokes.
- it doesnt need any care - the zip ties go over the 'x's' where the spokes cross each other, so they dont affect the spoke tension at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Can one still readily mend a puncture with puncture preventative in the tube? Be interested to know.
Ive never had a puncture with slime so i dont worry about it (and have a spare front tube anyway). I started using it after seeing a motorcoss tyre with 5 acacia thorns sticking through the tyre into the tube. the rider never even knew they were there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Is there then a danger of the shock overheating?
how would you know if it did? ive never noticed anything - today was 9 hours fast riding and it was still damping at the end

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
I wouldn't do this in the Sahara. The sand mixes with the oil and...
ive not done sand but loads of dirt roads. the high oil flow makes the dirt fly off so the chain is always clean and has a covering of oil. this is what scott recommend and they do lots of off road stuff.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Do metal handguards always save the levers?
yes, if they are fitted properly - so when the handguard bends it doesnt hit the lever . ive dropped my bike so many times (at least once a week at one point) and they've never even bent. I just bash the handguards back into shape.
__________________
Jerome

fowb.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 13 Apr 2006
Ian Ian is offline
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 443
Cool

Cheers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome
- it doesnt need any care - the zip ties go over the 'x's' where the spokes cross each other, so they dont affect the spoke tension at all.

how would you know if it did? ive never noticed anything - today was 9 hours fast riding and it was still damping at the end
I realised where the zip ties were, but if they were really tight they'd be pulling on the spokes so potentially over tensioning them.

Regarding the shock overheating, I guess you'd lose damping and soon realise.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 30 Apr 2006
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frankfurt/Germany
Posts: 44
Take only service things

Hey,
as original parts for the KTM are not so easy to get, pack the oil filters, chains and sprockets (the originals will last around 20000 KM) and some crash parts just in case.
Look at Jeromes website, he got quite some experience on the trip. Best dealer on spare parts shipping is KTM Sommer from Oberhausen Germany www.ktm-sommer.de they also speak English.
Cheers
__________________
Rasmus
www.panamericana.info
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Ecuador June 13-15
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:48.