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Help Wolf Rims doubts!!!!!

One more modification that i am currently studying is the to change my current tyre/ wheel setup from Boost alloy / General Gabber LR genuine tyre to wolf rims 6.5x16 / BFG mud 235x85 R16.

i am changing for the obvious reasons either because of the disadvantages of the alloy or the inappropriate tyre.

My question is does BFG 235x85 R16 fit a wolf rim 6.5x16 tubless ANR 4583.

i cannot use the nuts from the boost alloys on the wolf rims... correct ?

i will need to buy nuts for the wheel studs only correct ?

then again i saw in many threads that when you fit wolf rims the to a D90 hub you can see 1 - 2 mm of thread on the wheel nut. Is that a problem??

Thanx guys for your help....

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Standard Rims...... .....1650 kgs ........13 kgs each
wolf rims....................2200 kgs........15 kgs each
Boost Alloy ....................750 kgs
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The tyre certainly fits on the rim, no problem - I used 265 BFG on the same rim. The wheel nuts I am not sure, I have no experience of alloys on LRs. I think what some people find is that the wheel studs are slightly short when the thicker wolf steel rim is put on - although mine seemed fine when I stuck the wolfs on.
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I have the same Wolf tubeless rims with 235/85 MT on 300TDI 90 and there is no problem, fit perfectly. The tire on picture has 55000+ km on it.



It is theoretically possible that the studs may be on different level on certain vehicles but before these rims I had factory standard 5,5 steel rims and I did not adjust them.

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Thanx you for your reply guys that is all i wanted to know.....

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What Rover do you have? If you are running boosts, I assume you have a TD5? I think it is the earlier models which have shorter studs. Longer studs are 15mm longer than standard.

The change from boost alloys to wolfs give you many advantages. As stated above, 235's will fit fine. Im running 255/85's A nice combo.

I suggest you fit them and if you find you need longer studs order them up and get them flypressed in.

FRC7577 is the original parts part number. I know Britpart do an alternative.

Otherwise contact these guys, very helpfull: Zeus Engineering

Hope you get it sorted, wolfs may look like (understated) standard steels to the untrained eye, but pass a proper LR enthusiast and you will get a thumbs up the wheel of choice.

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I've seen rollovers caused by both incorrect tire/wheel combinations and by incorrect usage of wheel-nuts.

Even if tires will fit on wheels that doesn't mean they're in spec. While slightly out of spec tire/wheel combinations will fit and look ok (I'm talking about width), the tire could depart from the wheel at an inconvenient moment, and I struggle to think of a convenient moment for this to happen...

BFG have a good spec page for the MTs. It's always worth checking. In this case, the BFG MT KM2 LT235/85R16/E fits on rims 6-7.5 inches wide, so on Wolf wheels you're good.

For the steel wheels, you need the steel wheel nuts.

I use this combo on my NAS D90, and it works great.

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Yeah i have a TD5 MY 2005 - Alloy boosts - i guess the studs must be longer then...

Well now that i received the news that it will cost me around 425 £ (5 wheels + nuts + carrige to Portugal) have to tell you the truth i am not so sure !!!

I will be doing Marrocco for 3 weeks !!! mostly congurated pistes gravel/Stone ....are alloys such a NO NO!!! even if i go slow.

Can somebody encourage alloys .......

Thanx for sharing once more your experiences

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A friend of mine, Jim, who's a friend of Iain Chapman (the Camel Trophy Event Director for 10 years (IIRC)) asked him about the reliability of alloy wheels. Iain said they'd had no problems with them in the Camel Trophy.

Jim drove his Disco around the world back in 2000, on alloys. He had no problems.

I'd not worry too much. Anyway, you have two spares, right?

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Good to hear......i have one spare only plus repair kit and sticking to a standard 235x85 r16 just in case.

Well since the max weight of an alloy is 750 Kgs by corner - 3 tonne overall if i can work the vehicle weight around 2.300 kgs , i should be ok right??

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If it helps I will be coming down to Portugal in August so could bring them over for you.... - I think they are £40 each.

I changed to Wolf's on my 7.50 R16's on my 1991 200 tdi defender. The front axle is original and the studs are too short. The back axle was replaced with a newer (300 tdi era) back axle and they are fine.
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Sorry just saw the post now

Thanx man......but i already bought the wolfswheels (On their was from UK)

Are you talking about the cost of a set of studs 7577 they cost 40£ ???

If you are coming down to Portugal Porto in August in the second half of the month please give me a buzz so i can buy you a drink...

my e-mail: sherifsalem@yahoo.com

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Just put wolf wheels on my 127 Defender, had to get longer studs, 65m normal is 45m, and the nuts don't cover the studs, don't know if it is legal, but changed for my safety, cost £120 maybe a bit more.
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