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A thread elsewhere from a few years ago said Syria had 6000ppm, which would mean a new vehicle (Euro 4 or 5 emissions level I think?) would need a new engine after maybe 1000 miles



I see this misconception all over the Internet.
High sulfur diesel does NOT hurt an engine as long as high TBN oil is used and changed appropriately.
It can damage modern emission systems (Euro 4 and 5, US EPA 2007 and later).

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I agree with M37Charlie on this one - I've been recommended either Mobil Delvac XHP Extra or Shell Rimula RTX for my Unimog U1300.
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//http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolistenmain.php?navigation_path=bevolisten&blat t=228.5&content_action=show
Pick an oil from this list, they all have high TBN and are high quality. Most of the oils on this list have TBN about 16, which is very high.
The Mobil Delvac XHP Ultra 10W40 is an excellent choice. If you want a full synthetic and don't care about the price, use what I use in my U500: Delvac 1 SHC 5W40.
If you have an engine with a diesel catalyst and/or DPF and don't do the advisable thing and disconnect/bypass it (using the proper electronic patch!!), pick an oil from list 228.51. Their minimum TBN isn't as high but it is adequate with more frequent changes.
Does anyone in their right mind want to go to Syria right now? Thousands of people have been killed by the government...

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Does anyone in their right mind want to go to Syria right now? Thousands of people have been killed by the government...

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Right mind,,,probably not,,,, but going all the same. Should be crossing sometime in November hopefully with Ian and his wife in convoy.

I have read for $100 they will escort you across but i want to visit some tourist attractions on the way. They are hardly going to shoot tourists considering 15% of their GDP is tourism and i'm not planning on going to any gatherings.

BTW that oil table is a great find. Need some high TBN oil myself. If it wern't for Toms book would anyone even know about this? Is it just bull?

This table shows what sulfur is in fuels
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/de/Spec_136_2.pdf
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Right mind,,,probably not,,,, but going all the same. Should be crossing sometime in November hopefully with Ian and his wife in convoy.

I have read for $100 they will escort you across but i want to visit some tourist attractions on the way. They are hardly going to shoot tourists considering 15% of their GDP is tourism and i'm not planning on going to any gatherings.

BTW that oil table is a great find. Need some high TBN oil myself. If it wern't for Toms book would anyone even know about this? Is it just bull?
If you educate yourself about motors and motor oil you'd know about TBN.
Go on, reassure yourself they won't shoot you because they need your tourist dollar; right up to the point that bullet leaves the barrel...

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If you educate yourself about motors and motor oil you'd know about TBN.
Go on, reassure yourself they won't shoot you because they need your tourist dollar; right up to the point that bullet leaves the barrel...

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To answer your slur on my knowledge on motors and motor oil. I do know a thing or two about both but i do question the validity of TBN in the EU. In fact most oil supliers don't even quote it here.

Possibly in preparation for your trip round the world you might learn enough to keep you mouth shut when you don't know what you are on about or at least when you comments are meaningless other than to do nothing but ridicule something you know nothing about. Been to Syria recently have we or indeed anywhere ?
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"slur": there's been a thing or two written about TBN since Tom Sheppard's book. Have you frequented www.bobistheoilguy.com. by chance? Many EU oil suppliers quote TBN if you read their Product Data Statements. I could quote them ad infiniteum.
http://www.lubrizol.com/Products3col...d&itemid=34976
"Ridicule": I see a lot of bravery with people saying they have plans to travel to countries where citizens are being killed right and left. I guess not my idea of a vacation.
I have travelled to 6 continents and 35-40 countries (4 continents, 8 countries in the Unimog) without getting robbed or kidnapped and would like to keep it this way.
I admit it. I'm a chicken. (who knows a lot about motor oil). I have no intention of going to Syria in the near future.
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