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Hi Samy,

I am no expert here but due to a specific warning from the shipping companies I understood I could not take a car from north to south.

I have now read some forums and my interpretation is that bringing a car from Turkey into North Cyprus, and taking it to the South will be illegal.

We have South African passports and I have also a brittish passport (my brother has Schengen VISA).
I know this thread has moved on to Israel / Jordan options but, per above quote, cars and bikes can be taken into northern (Turkish) Cyprus. We recently did this and got the boat Tasucu - Girne, then crossed into 'southern' Cyprus at Nicosia. A bit of hassle and various bits of paperwork required, but quite standard practice.
The vehicle can temporarily stay in 'southern' Cyprus for up to 6 months on a CP5 permit that you get at Nicosia border.
The issue comes when you try to leave. There is no way Customs will let you leave Cyprus from Limassol port if you have come in from the Turkish side. We have tried containers and ferries. Even spoke to a cruise line.
Cyprus Customs officials get very upset if you try to leave from Limassol and will threaten confiscation of the vehicle. They send you back exactly the way you came in (just to teach you a lesson, I guess) as they are not prepared to officially recognise the Turkish 'illegal' occupation of the north and consider it an illegal (but tolerated) point of entry to the island.
Perverse, but it seems they're sticking to their guns.
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Thanks itchyfeet and walkabout for the clarification. Indeed, vehicles can not cross the Allenby / King Hussein border! This is for foot passengers only who have to use a shuttle bus. Some exceptions are made for UN, dipolomats and the like but it's a tidious and time consuming process (about 4 weeks) to get the permit which to my knowledge is never issued to travelers.

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Thanks itchyfeet and walkabout for the clarification. Indeed, vehicles can not cross the Allenby / King Hussein border! This is for foot passengers only who have to use a shuttle bus. Some exceptions are made for UN, dipolomats and the like but it's a tidious and time consuming process (about 4 weeks) to get the permit which to my knowledge is never issued to travelers.

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This may be correct - I've only ever crossed King Hussein/Allenby in a Diplomatic vehicle - but I know plenty of people who've crossed on personal motorbikes - maybe there is an exception for them too...?
But my earlier comments about the slips of paper still stand - and I'm pretty sure they do that at the other borders too.
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The eilat-aqaba crossing was happy to offer a slip on which they stamp, and this includes customs. The carnet document now has a page used by Jordan customs, but that is easy to remove temporarily.

SINAI UPDATE:

As of 5 days ago no 4x4 vehicle are allowed to enter Sinai through ANY port including Nuweiba. This is now renewed and enforced and people have been turned back. As a result ABMarintime no longer takes 4x4 on the aqaba-nuweiba ferry. We have checked this with the egyptian embassy in Aqaba. They phoned and confirmed this newly enforced rule. It is not even possible to ship a 4x4 on a truck - also confirmed.

We have to choice but to ship the car in a container to Egypr mainland. This service is offered by Kawar and will cost $1500 USD including everyting except egyptian side customs clearance / agency.

A truely crap situation to be in. We will ship the car next Monday and take a passenger ferry to nuweiba and bus to Cairo to collect.
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Very sorry to hear that. I'm sure you've seen others posting here in the last day or two are in a similar situation...

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...459#post438365

Any chance of sharing a bigger container for a lower cost (and some moral support)?
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Just a thought but is it possible to ship to anywhere on the Red Sea coast. Going back through the Suez canal is going to cost. Port Sudan may be cheaper/easier from Aqaba than say Port Said (and would save you the cost and pain of importing to Egypt)

Or any possibility of getting a transit visa via Saudi and then the ferry to Suakin? Given the "exceptional" circumstances? Probably not but may be at least worth a try.
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Awesome idea! We are aiming for shipping on Monday next week. Not sure how long containers are but if the truck is < 2.3 m high then yes.

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The container ship from Kawar is from Aqaba to Sokhna so is on the Red Sea side . no Suez pass.
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Awesome idea! We are aiming for shipping on Monday next week. Not sure how long containers are but if the truck is < 2.3 m high then yes.

Skype: 'bergietrollie'

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The commonly available containers are either 20 foot or 40 foot long with the same, standardised, height and width, hence allowing them to stack like lego bricks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container
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