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Hi Warden.It is a long time since I used your route into Sacred camp and it was a very rough rock track.I was in a LR Def. will it be OK in the heat on big bikes?
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Hi Warden.It is a long time since I used your route into Sacred camp and it was a very rough rock track.I was in a LR Def. will it be OK in the heat on big bikes?
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Coming from Tagounite it’s still a rocky hell after you pass through the mountain, much like the last section in FZ.
Better to head west out of Mhamid directly to the oasis
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Three guys with "minimal off-road experience" will not make it through the dune field W of Mhamid. The route I suggested avoids the soft sand and also the worst of the rocky piste to FZ. The approach to FZ from the SSE has deteriorated and is now IMHO one of the worst pistes in the south.
The detour to the S on the rallye piste is much longer but less stressful riding. However, I'd rather ride it in the springtime than next week.
As Chris and Tim have suggested, there are many other pistes that are much more rewarding.
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Cheers guys,
Excellent advice.
Exactly as I was thinking, not to be attempted.
I'd have the most experience of the group, and if I was on my Xt600, I'd tackle it.
Best to have a little venture into the dunes and back out again. One of the guys is determined to camp out in the dunes for 1 night, which is a bit if a p.i.t.a.....
Its a load of gear to bring for just one night.
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One of the desert camps around Mhamid could fix that for you and save your luggage.Maybe someone can help with names
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If you want to camp in dunes without using one of tourist camps go to Chebbi, you can get much closer on tarmac. The downside is it’s hard to avoid the other tourists, parts of Cheggaga are sadly heading that way.
(Strictly speaking wildcamping and driving/riding in the Ergs is restricted legally. Not much enforcement though)
It’s is possible to to the originally route discussed without hitting more than a few meters of sand heading west out of Mhamid and there’s also a non sandy route that circumvents the rocky RP route from Tagounite and also Mhamid village itself.
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Over the last 2 days we took a group of 2wd cars from Mhamid to FZ via Chegaga. The so called difficult dunes immediately west of Mhamid are hard packed sand/mud as I previously posted and present no difficulty to anyone.
The piste on the north edge of Chegaga was a little bit more difficult than usual but nothing I wouldn’t expect with the reduced traffic over the summer months. Stay on the edge of the mountain and you can skip all the sand.
Last nights thunderstorms didn’t cause any difficulty for us crossing Iriki heading west although the mud caked rally competitors arriving in FZ this afternoon would suggest that Mhamid saw more rain than Chegaga did
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