so can i prepare my own d16 with the pickup and bike on it in advance, or do i have to do the triplicate thing at the port ?

I would say definitely not: what their message says is to prepare one D16ter for each vehicle (it cannot be done otherwise anyhow), and what they will do is to annotate the bikes onto the car's D16ter (by hand? on their database?)
I think it's very likely that some negotiation with the customs officer on duty will be needed to get this done, and I'd not bet that it will work anyhow...

Ah, Ok, thanks Nicola.

we are in contact with an agency that can manage the customs procedure with a cost of 30€ for each bike

Sounds interesting, can you pls share the contact (or send me a PM)?

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I'm waiting for grren card (insurance) answer, I hope they can manage also that
I don't know if the green card can be bought without the owner of motorbike presence

So here's my experience...

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I had sent a question, with all the details of my plans, to the Administration des Douanes through their website:
Requête en ligne
and within a couple of days I got the reply I posted above.

With the printout everything was relatively smooth, though the thing required a couple more iterations and an extra hour than usual. The procedure had to be taken care of by the inspecteur himself. He eventually noted car trailer and bikes on the same D16ter, and filed the printout with the yellow copy they keep in the archive. He told me I was allowed to pass only because of this "special permission".

However in Mauri I met a tour operator driving a truck with seven bikes, who told me he crosses into Morocco regularly and never uses any special procedure. He just gets to the port, skips normal officers, and heads to the big boss. And allows for enough time in his travel plan for the matter to be discussed...

Crossing back from Mauri to Morocco, they seemed not to care at all about this problem. They just packed all plates on the same D16ter, no question asked.

So for what I can tell it should not be impossible for one person to pass with several bikes on a van or trailer, providing he speaks decent french and he's ready for some discussion. However given it's quick and free I'd recommend sending a request to the website of the Administration des douanes and bring a printout of the answer.

HTH,
Nicola

Thanks to Zineb at Bikershome I now have a better understanding of how the new regulations are applied.

1. If all the vehicles are registered to different owners and you have letters giving authority to be transporting them, they will be allowed in.

2. If you are by yourself with one motorbike on/behind a vehicle you should be OK.

3. If you are bringing in several of your own bikes you will likely encounter problems and your success may be dependent on the attitude of the 'head honcho'.

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Thats reasuring Tim. Thanks for that.

recent informations obout it. 10 days ago

Tangeri port (MED)

two italian 4x4 with trailer, 8 bikes in total on the trailers
the drivers was not owners of the bikes

on the back of the two d16ter of the 4x4 the police added the list of the bikes

only some hours of patience needed

documents needed, the original "carte gris" of the motorbike.

no delegations or legal delegations needed, also for the "green card" for insurance

price for every bike for the insurance "green card", 93€ each.

came through yesturday, (Thurs).
No problems, two uk bikes on back of pickup. Me and owner of other bike on board.
They put my bike on the form for the pickup.
Didn't seem out of the ordinary for them.

Your experience above matches point 2 below.

Point 3 is the tough area. Peter at Bikershome had problems a few weeks ago entering with three Spanish bikes registered in his name on the back of a 4x4 also registered in his name. Despite having Zineb with him to sweet talk the officials they refused entry. He retreated and waited several hours until the officials changed and tried again, same result.

So he bought a ticket back to Spain and hooked up with some friends who were entering a couple of days later and who had more people than vehicles. This time success.

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A month ago crossed with a 4x4 not in my name at Tanger Med. All papers in good order....but they didn't accept my handwritten procuration. Told me to get a more official looking paper with stamps on it.
Took an hour to get the document emailed from London and printed out. Head of customs office grudgingly accepted it although there were no stamps. (Now thinking of buying some nifty looking custom made rubber stamps on ebay, will make African transits easier).
The problem was they had put the car in the depot. Getting it out of there took four hours, including three visits to offices in various corners of the port. And I had no vehicle, so had to walk. There is a small bus service for the port that is free, but drivers only spoke arabic and I mostly had to find the way myself.
The final part of this elaborate bureaucratic torture was having to pay for the parking.
First day is free (from then on 200 Dh per day, therefore lots of deserted vehicles in the depot).
So the bill was for ZERO dirham, but still had to be paid. This could ONLY be done at the small bank office at the eastern gate of the port (almost a kilometer away). So I went there and waited in line, paid zero dirhams and got a receipt in three copies that I had done so.
Now my car was released. By this time I was rather dehydrated and fatigued. I asked - is there anything else? And they said no, I was free to go. Went to the gate and the guard took a look at my pile of documents and let me out. Drove straight to Rabat.
It was only four days later when exiting to Mauretania I realized I had never been given the FEUILLE VERT, the laissez-passer! Expecting to be put in jail for this, I was instead charmed by the new head of customs, a lovely lady in her forties, who had total command of the post and found it very amusing that had I crossed the whole country without the permit to do so.
Next day, thanks to her MASHALLAH everything was sorted.

Or so I thought.
Follow-up to above post.
Passed through Morocco again a month ago. Arriving in Ceuta I was halted by customs claiming I had a car in Morocco since April 2016, still attached to my Numero Police. It appears everything was not sorted at my last exit.
Standing next to a brit who was paying a 4000Dh fine cash for keeping his car in the country one day too long, I expected the worst (cash or jailtime). After some deliberation they made me sign an engagement to have it sorted at the exit in the South, and let me go. Phew.
Arriving at El Guergarat two weeks later I tried to get some attention to sort my engagement but was very much ignored and had a feeling it could get complicated, so I carried on.
Now have a new passport and will try to get a fresh start with a new Numero Police, next trip.

In case anybody is interested, I asked through the ADMII request form how entering with >1 bike on a van/trailer with a single driver will work now that the D16ter has been suppressed (see the discussion at http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...r-in-use-96937). I think the answer is interesting.

First of all, here's the transcript of of my request (which I formulated in a pedanitic way so to avoid any possible misinterpretation):

"Suite à la suppression du modèle D16ter, j'ai une question sur l'AT pour les véhicules de tourisme.
Depuis plusieurs années, chaque hiver je passe deux semaines de vacances en moto au Maroc avec un ami. Pour gagner du temps, mon ami arrive à Tanger Med avec un fourgon avec les deux motos à l'intérieur, et j'arrive à Marrakech en avion. Nous rentrons ensuite en Italie ensemble.
Car mon ami arrive seul à Tanger, je lui donne ma procuration legalisee pour ma moto; avec ça les deux motos ont toujours été anotées sur le corp de la declaration D16ter du fourgon comme spécifié dans votre réponse à ma demande n. [XXXXX] (montré ci-dessous).
Quelle démarche doit être suivie maintenant, avec la suppression du modèle D16ter?"

And here is the answer I promptly got:

"De : Unité centrale chargée des requêtes à l'Administration Centrale

Monsieur,
Faisant suite à votre requête, nous vous informons que dans le but de faciliter le passage en douane, il a été décidé de dispenser les voyageurs à la souscription des déclarations D16 ter à partir du 01/01/2019. Dorénavant, l’admission temporaire des véhicules automobiles est concrétisée par la prise en charge au niveau du système informatique de cette administration « BADR » sur la base de la déclaration verbale du voyageur au moment de son entrée. Il est précisé également à ce propos que conformément à la réglementation, l’admission temporaire peur être accordée pour un véhicule automobile, une remorque et une moto.
Quant à la deuxième moto, elle sera admise temporairement avec prise en charge sur le système informatique au nom de la personne vous accompagnant avec production, en plus des documents de la moto, d’une procuration dûment légalisée ou cas où elle n’est pas le propriétaire de cette moto.
Salutations distinguées."

The first part of the message is the standard reply to enquiries about the suppresson of the D16ter. What is interesting is the second part (in bold) where I understand that:

• Entering with a car+trailer+1 bike is always allowed for a single person.
• For the second bike, the answer is not crystal-clear, as it usually happens. But given that in the question I explicitly mentioned that the van's driver would arrive alone, the literal meaning of the answer is that the second bike will be registered in absentia on the name of the friend who has to arrive by plane. That would be brillant if true!

I am going to try out in a few weeks. I expect the border officer on duty may not share the same view on the matter, but in my experience a printed official reply from the Administration Centrale is taken as an authorization. I also expect that the officer may be willing to register a bike on an absent's person name only with proper documentation (a copy of his passport, arequest signed by him and legalized, a copy of his incoming flight ticket; the more paper the better as usual).

Hope this may help others in the same situation.

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