Can you please resize or crop your graphic (or use the version below) as it makes reading and responding almost impossible.



Where did you get the map? Is this the Garmin Topo (as opposed to the Olaf topo)? I suspect some of the routes
shown are footpaths or mule tracks.

I don't know whether the route you show in magenta actually connects with Oukaimdene, when you look on Google Earth
it starts off OK but disappears. You'll note the suspicious straight section and the contour lines just north of the
'unpaved road' label are too close (i.e. too steep for a vehicle). But by all means prove me wrong.

The backdoor piste to Oukaimdene that I've used leaves the tarmac at N31 14.593 W7 54.780 which is earlier than
your magenta route. It starts off as a nice blue (non technical) track however there's a definitely tricky technical section
about 4km along the track. I recorded it as a black (expert) rather than a red (technical). However, conditions do
change, and of course you always have the opportunity to do some piste rebuilding work before tackling stages (grin).

Re your green route: there's a tarmac road, then a piste to the top of the Tizi n'Eddi (I did this on a trek several years
before the new piste was dug out about four years ago). But as of about 18 months ago, the link that you show from
the Tizi n'Eddi south to Tagaddirt just doesn't exist unless you are a mule. I've climbed it on foot but you only have to
look at the contour lines to work out that it's impossible as a vehicular route.

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Hi, Tim. When was too late I saw map is 1920x1200 px. Now I will resize all to 1024x768 px and hope it will be Ok. Sorry about my poor English, but I will try to explain.

Garmin map Morocco-Topo v2 is bought from Touratech. It is routabile with same and more tracks as in Olaf v1.5. Someone add bigger city's street navigation too. So it looks like mixure Olaf 1.5 with CN North Africa 2012. I spot that in this "new" (from 2009) map are not so many hotel signs as in v1.5 or in CN, but much more tracks included. Also walking tracks are in. That was reason I asked you if it is possible to pass mount M'Goun. Tour guide from Ouozoud falls said to me that moroccans building new piste over M'Goun which should go up near 4.000 m a.s.l. ??? Can you check this info at your moroccan friends, please?

Here is same map without tracks. "Magenta" is not connected to the pass of Oukameiden ...



But when I photograph from Oukameiden view spot (200-300 m West from restaurants platoe) I saw gravel piste going down ... Looks like "magenta" piste.

Direction to Toubkal: mid-down is gravel piste direction Asni ???


direction bit to North - same piste


Upper parking place. Near ski lifts. Follows one piste. I thik this is "green" one. I do not understand you well. Is it possible to ride from Asni over Tizi-n-Eddi to Oukameiden on 1200gs?


Thomas

The nifty bit of image resizing above mixes a bit your magenta route with what's actually on the ground. The junction of piste and tarmac at W30029.3 is the scene of your second photograph.

The green route leading south is initially tarmac (halfway along is the ski lift shown in your third photo) and it then climbs in a steep piste to the top of the Tizi n'Eddi. At the top you overlook the next valley but there's no way down on a bike.

There are some other high pistes in the area, the one climbing Jebel Ouhattr is an example, there's another nearby.

Going back to your larger Garmin Topo map, the tarmac road from Asni to Imlil now continues way past Imlil, over the Tizi n'Tamatert (video below) and into the next valley.



The dotted line shown running from there, northwest to Asni is fine on a bike.

I'll be in the area in a couple of weeks, might take another look if it's not too cold in the mountains.

Tim

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Thank's Bertrand and special to you Tim. Plane is returning into Morocco this June and ride as much as possible by Chris book routes or part of them: MH-1, 3, 2; MH-4, 5; MS-6, 8; MA-3, 1, 2; your Imlil-Tizi n'Tamatert-Asni; MH-7; MS-9 and your Azilal-Chatedral-Beni Melal.

If we meet us there, should drink a pint of

Reading the contour lines is key for working out what are viable routes. Then checking what might be viable with Google Earth to see if you can see the track on the ground.

I'll also be in Morocco in June, so who knows... June will be the second trip with my son-in-law. Last year's trip was the first time he had been on a motorbike since passing his bike test four years earlier, and the video below shows what I subjected him to on his first day in Morocco.

I have to admit I did wonder whether he would make it...

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Your son-in-law should made something terrible wrong you forced him over flooded track :-) In Chris book: Morocco Overland page 91: Better wet boots than everything else too or even worse scenario ...

Every time when visit unknown terrain, I use Google Earth to check track condition. But not be possible to check everywhere.

In June will be with company in Morocco again. This time we will ride 1x KTM 990adv, 2x 1200gsA (all SLO) and 2x F-800gs from friends from UK. All on Conti TKC. One UK friend is not so confident in off-road ridding. I have some worried about two sections. First goes from Taza direction south over Tizi n'Zabel, just 20 km gravel/rocky piste. When checking situation on Google-Earth seams piste has no tricky parts. But piste from Demnate->Tizi n'Amarskine->Tirsal->Iskad->piste to Chatedral is different story. Does anyone knows piste conditions of that part. If it is too technical seams better going around to Azlilal, then South towards the piste to Chatedral. Any ideas?

Map of first section South from Taza


and second Demnate to Chatedral

The first leg you are asking for I think is almost tarmac, only near tizi BouZabel there is gravel but not difficult.

Tomorrow som friends depart to see your second leg, grrr! I must be with them. I´ll say anything when they arrive

Many thank's Pera, I will wait for your latest report from not so easy part from Demnate towards Chatedral. I saw only pictures with very hard technical terrain on that part.

Thomas

Ok, they depart tomorrow I was going with them but it´s imposible

Pera, did not understand well. You tryed this section, but was not possible to pass or something else was happen? Mud slides or ... force you turning back?

Do you think this part should be passable end of June? Thank's for explanations.

Thomas

Ok, with an image is easier



I began at Azilal last summer. This week my friends are trying on the reverse sense to Demnate.

Pera, your picture is on second part of route. Chatedral piste. I know there are no tecnical problems at all.

What about firs part from Demnate over Tizi Amarskine, Tirsal ??? This one should be big problem. Need info's from that part. Tnx

Thomas

Next Monday, when my friends arrive.

Any news on the condition of the routes MA2 and MA1 from Cris Scott's Book ?

A while ago I was told that route MA2 was closed due to a land slide, does any one now if it has reopen ?

Otherwise would route ma1 be a good alternative ?



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