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Old 31 Jan 2019
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Vehicle scrapped: what to do?

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New to the group, have had a browse around and it appears the temporary vehicle import process has recently been revised, so it might all be different now
Anyway, to the point, worse case scenario and my car Peugeot 807 is not mendable in time, what options are there?
Currently the engine is out. Initial problem was a blocked injector, which are notoriously difficult to remove.
I'm still hopeful that it can be put back together, but just in case........

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Fingers crossed it can be fixed. Moroccan mechanics are very resourceful!

If it does get scrapped you will need to visit the nearest customs office and get it cleared from you passport etc. You’ll have to pay import duty on the value of the vehicle. When one of my group lost a Landcruiser in a fire he had to pay 2300dH import on the wreckage (by all accounts that was very very cheap)

I’m guessing slightly here, but you may need an official report stating that it has been scrapped. Expect a couple of days of headaches with the authorities.

Alternatively get it transported out of Morocco and scrap it in Spain


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That's very helpful, thanks.
My natural optimism and faith in the resourcefulness of local mechanicos is waning.
Would be a shame, and headache, to scrap car, even though it was only worth a £1000 in UK, for the sake of special tool. Then there's getting myself, wife and dog home. Hmmmm, quite a few permutations.
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Can you get another good injector? Then drill and tap the old one out ...

Alternatives ... another motor? Just the engine.
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If you are a member of ADAC, they will get your vehicle out of Morocco if it is out of action
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Can you get another good injector? Then drill and tap the old one out ...

Alternatives ... another motor? Just the engine.
As the engine has other issues as well, now considering a second hand engine
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If you are a member of ADAC, they will get your vehicle out of Morocco if it is out of action
Wish I was....
That's the benefit of hindsight and cost of spontaneity.....
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ADAC stopped taking U.K. members a couple of years ago. I’ve also heard they may have stopped the repatriation service now


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Duty and procedure for importing spare engine.....?

Hello again,
Sorry about all the recent newbie posts....
Following up the replacement engine option. Found plenty in Europe, guaranteed and compatible, but then there's shipping costs and possible import charges.

Decisions, decisions..... good job I like to keep my brain active, accumulating yet more information, whilst lounging in the sun

Any insights and similar problems solved welcome
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I have brought a "spare" engine and gearbox in the rear a few times. Customs accepted that.
Better buy in Spain than Morocco I would say. Still a risky deal. And tiresome. I would probably dump the car, and negotiate with customs.
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Thanks for sharing.
Having large dog with us doesn't help logistics. Would still need to get a car in Spain, in order to get back to uk.
The universe will provide a solution, of sorts, in due course, I'm sure.
Car currently has engine out, so half way there, in a way....
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Hello Ian:

Although I am in Morocco at the moment (just rode up from Dakhla to Laayoune today), I'm not an expert on Moroccan customs procedures.

What I do know, though, from decades of working overseas in the aviation industry, is that most countries recognize that occasionally someone or some entity needs to 'temporarily' import a part in order to repair a piece of equipment (in my case, aircraft).

Sometimes, it is sufficient to state that the part is coming into the country in order to effect a repair on a moving object (vehicle, aircraft, ship) that will then leave the country as soon as the repair is carried out. In such cases, you just explain the situation to the customs officer (or to your customs broker), and the part comes in without tax or duty.

Sometimes it is necessary to either post a bond for the duty that would be paid if the part is not exported, or pay the duty up front and then apply for remission of the duty once you have proved that the part has left the country.

I suggest that you contract a customs broker in Morocco (one who has an office in the city you are in, and is able to clear the shipment for you at the port of entry into Morocco) and ask them what the Moroccan protocol is for situations such as yours. That same broker will probably be able to assist you with whatever paperwork is necessary to prove that the engine you are leaving behind is scrap and of no commercial value.

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Alternatively get it transported out of Morocco and scrap it in Spain
Why bother taking it all the way to Spain? Just take it out of Morocco and push it off the ferry halfway across - that will save you time, money, and paperwork

Alternatively, just leave it behind on the boat when you arrive in Spain, and walk off...
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That's brilliant and reassuring advice, thanks
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I dealt with Customs in Dahkla a few years ago to retrieve a moto that had been left in official customs storage. They were very helpful and professional.
Many large towns will have a Bureau de Douanes. It seems Larache has an office. See Customs website
There is a daily charge for storage.
Elsewhere on HUBB I seem to remember reading it was possible to leave a vehicle at an airport (i.e not a customs warehouse) and only the keys were left with Customs. So it may be possible avoid or reduce storage costs. You do have a convincing case for leaving the car at the garage.

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