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4 Feb 2019
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Duty and procedure for importing spare engine.....?
I know someone whose replacement clutch was apparently sat in Moroccan customs for 2 weeks being processed recently.
Having something sent to you could well take quite a while. If you go down the replacement parts route from Europe you might be better trying to find someone to bring it for you although a whole engine is pretty big
Peugeot’s are common in Morocco so sourcing parts should be possible there.
Maybe try calling a decent mechanic like Ali Nassir in Zagora and seeing if they can source a replacement and get it sent to where you are
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5 Feb 2019
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Thanks for that, we walked past the douane place yesterday and noted it for future reference... I'm still hopeful it won't come to that but time is running out....
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5 Feb 2019
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Eeeek!
2 weeks? I'm sorry I keep forgetting this isn't EU, with frictionless borders. Though I have put word out for a man and van in Spain, anticipating slow delivery.
Apparently, we can't chuck any Peugeot Citroen engine in as it will then upset the ECU, which narrows it down.
Must be RHR DW10BTED4 engine codes 136hp 2.0hdi, in old money.
Thanks for the name of contact, I'll research phone number for him.
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5 Feb 2019
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Has your "mechanic" destroyed the engine? Can you find a friendly garage back home with a suitable injector puller you could hire, and have someone fly out with it on a cheap carrier of your choice? (A la Lois Pryce's rescue mission to Austin Vince on Mondo Sahara with a piston and top-end rebuild kit for a Honda XR400)
Sorry, just read in your next thread down further issues with the engine.
Towing into Ceuta would be my next thought to get over the reexportation deadline, which would also remove customs duty issues with any spare parts you bring in.
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5 Feb 2019
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All options still on the table.
I've learned today that what I'm doing is "parallel planning", which sounds more constructive than "head boiling......
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6 Feb 2019
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Customs clearance for spare engine.....
I've bitten the bullet! Got the ball rolling...
Bought spare engine and arranged shipping to Morocco through a logistics company a friend works for. Mates rates. Works out same price/ cheaper than buying locally without the hassle of running about down the inevitable blind alleys.
Anyway, to the point. Larache customs officer was very helpful and kind but my questions were beyond his experience. He said that he will find out. I'm looking for a customs agent in the meantime.
I've read all sorts of horror stories about spares being held up for weeks and I'm very keen for that not to happen to us.
Is there a key phrase, document or whatever I need to be asking for?
Thanks in advance, internet is a bit slow today so my own independent research is compromised
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6 Feb 2019
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Well, I've bitten the bullet, bought engine in UK and arranged shipping.
Douane officers in Larache were very sympathetic but needed to check, higher up the food chain, before giving a definite answer regarding " temporary import certificate" or whatever
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6 Feb 2019
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Ian:
What you need is a licenced customs broker who can do the paperwork on your behalf.
You have a relatively complex transaction (temporary importation of a spare part that will be re-exported, along with abandonment of the component that the spare is replacing).
I think it is likely that the average customs official will not know, off the top of their head, how to deal with this to your best advantage. This is why you should get a customs broker.
Let me put it in context: If I was in my home country (Canada), where I speak the language and generally know the rules, and I had to do something similar (temporarily import an object, hopefully without duty & tax, and then re-export the object), I would contact a customs broker in Canada to handle this on my behalf... I would not try to do it myself.
I think that any horror stories that you may have heard about items getting hung up in customs for weeks probably arise because individuals who are unfamiliar with the process try to do the paperwork themselves.
For what it's worth...
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6 Feb 2019
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That is the soundest advice I've had today, thank you!
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7 Feb 2019
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As of yet, despite asking around and thorough search of the internet, none in Larache. Have contacted firms in Tangier and Casa.....
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8 Feb 2019
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Temporary Admission of spare parts protocol....
Hello again....
I've had zero success finding a licensed customs or transit agent who is prepared to act on our behalf, as suggested in previous post.
I have found a page on the government website, that clearly states that it is possible to temporarily import spares to effect a repair without any duty payable.
This was news, I think, to the local douane in Larache.
Unfortunately, the guidance states that the process has to be initiated by an "assistance company" delegated by the tourist, rather than as an individual.
We phoned the recommended company and told that it wasn't possible, all he could arrange was being towed to Spain.
Back to square one, or minus square 1, as I've paid for an engine and arranged shipping from UK.....
Hmmmm,.....
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8 Feb 2019
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Hi Ian,
As someone else mentioned, you could
1. Trailer/truck your vehicle to Ceuta frontier
2. No problem to export the vehicle
3. Source a replacement engine in Spain
4. Ship it to Ceuta - no customs issues
5. Get a garage in Ceuta to fit it
6. Re-enter Morocco - customs don't check engine numbers
Just my 2 pennorth.
Happy trails,
Peter
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8 Feb 2019
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Maybe search for "freight forwarder" or "transport et logistique "
If you can't find one in Larache there're surely many in Tangiers.
Yellow Pages in MA might help too.
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Thanks for that, Peter.
I rejected that plan because it all felt too difficult, with a wife and large dog in tow, and the engine already out.
Importing, though expensive, felt like the path of least resistance.
The dog has developed quite a fan base on has become famous on Farcebook....
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I've probably emailed and or called a dozen companies now.
Then douane said that it was an assistance company we needed, matching the guidance on website. That company was only interested in taking me to Spain.
The finale, before close of business, was to instruct the bureau on back of "green Insurance card". They weren't interested because no RTA involved.
Really enjoying living here, for a while, but would enjoy it more if the engine I've paid for was on its way....
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