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13 May 2013
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I didn't notice that it had a slot for a lanyard, I'm am pretty religious about using lanyards when possible.
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There is a slot at the bottom of the unit if held in portrait mode
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14 May 2013
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Got the new unit, attached lanyard...
Colebatch pls let me know if you find out some special trick to take out the original security screw; I'm guessing I just need to stick a knife blade and pry it out, but don't want to screw up the mount (or the knife!).
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14 May 2013
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Motoreiter, don't use the knife. The procedure is described in detail at
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The screw used in the instructions doesn't look nice. You can use quite a standard DIN 464 M3 thumb screw for this. No need to spend EUR 10+. You can get it in most bolt shops or on Ebay ( 1 Stk Rändelschraube DIN 464 M3x6 hohe Form EDELSTAHL | eBay). Put it in a drill and file off a few of the threads, just like in the instructions in the link, using the old screw as a guide. 10 minute affair. After that, you can fit the safety ring again and won't lose the screw if you forget to tighten it.
The torx screw annoyed my from day one. Not a very practical idea.
Oh, just realized you lost your old Montana. Sorry for your loss. That sucks! I assume the security screw wasn't in? To add insult to injury, that still doesn't fix the broken pins in your cradle :-(
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14 May 2013
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That link is perfect, thanks. I've got a couple of knob-screws from when I had my Zumo, so I'm hoping that those will work.
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Oh, just realized you lost your old Montana. Sorry for your loss. That sucks! I assume the security screw wasn't in? To add insult to injury, that still doesn't fix the broken pins in your cradle :-(
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Yes, it sucks, but my fault for not having a lanyard attached, and I guess there is a chance that it wasn't inserted properly in the first place. And no, the security screw was not in when I lost it.
Broken pins in the cradle?! Crap, I will have to check that...
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14 May 2013
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OK, I've checked the pins and now have another question: I have Montana cradles on two bikes, on both cradles there are six pins, and a seventh spot (on the far right) where it looks like a pin might go (ie, a circular indentation), although there are not any indications that a pin was ever there.
However, on the bottom of the Montana there are seven contacts, so maybe there should be a seventh pin?
In any event, when I put the Montana in the cradle and turn the bike on the Montana turns on as well, so hopefully everything is cool.
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15 May 2013
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OK, I've checked the pins and now have another question: I have Montana cradles on two bikes, on both cradles there are six pins, and a seventh spot (on the far right) where it looks like a pin might go (ie, a circular indentation), although there are not any indications that a pin was ever there.
However, on the bottom of the Montana there are seven contacts, so maybe there should be a seventh pin?
In any event, when I put the Montana in the cradle and turn the bike on the Montana turns on as well, so hopefully everything is cool.
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Mine is the same as works as expected.
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16 May 2013
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The display in my Montana, when being used in the Garmin mount, began rotating between portrait and landscape (plus all points in between) this morning, making it all but impossible to read. Has anyone experienced a similar occurrence? Would a master re-set rectify the situation? I have yet to try that this morning as I will lose the routes on the device. Thanks.
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16 May 2013
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You know that you can lock the view--portrait or landscape--right? That should fix the problem, although now that you mention it I think I might have had the screen rotate even after I locked it.
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19 May 2013
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Use the profiles, make one for on the bike that has all the setting you like for that mode of use. including locking the aspect.
I have about 5 or 6 profiles, for walking, mountain biking, driving (Tom Tom), off road, etc, etc.
Profiles are a powerful tool and your friend. 
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19 May 2013
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as Motoreiter rightly points out, for motorcycle use (as opposed to hiking or car use which the Montana is also designed for) the vibrations and g-forces the montana gets subjected to are beyond the sensitivities of the auto orientation sensors on the unit. So you will need to lock the orientation ... Its easily done in the settings.
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19 May 2013
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Never had a problem with the horizontal or vertical on mine but then I chose to mount mine in the well dampened Touratech locking mount.
I looked at the security screw work around which is daft IMHO as the OE is designed to discourage a thief! To just have a home made bolt kind of defeats that purpose!
Just my 2 cents!
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19 May 2013
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Never had a problem with the horizontal or vertical on mine but then I chose to mount mine in the well dampened Touratech locking mount.
I looked at the security screw work around which is daft IMHO as the OE is designed to discourage a thief! To just have a home made bolt kind of defeats that purpose!
Just my 2 cents!
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Well I never use it to deter a thief .... if I go to lunch or finish for the day I remove it off the bike.
They point is you want to secure it to the amps mount to stop it jumping out under extreme stress ... which is seems to do on occasion if the screw is not screwed in as a back up. Ive not heard of it ever jumping out with the screw in. The security screw thus acts as security. In which case you want it as quick and easy to manually use.
So its a different definition of security. Not security vs theft, but security vs coming loose and falling off the bike.
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20 May 2013
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Well I never use it to deter a thief .... if I go to lunch or finish for the day I remove it off the bike.
They point is you want to secure it to the amps mount to stop it jumping out under extreme stress ... which is seems to do on occasion if the screw is not screwed in as a back up. Ive not heard of it ever jumping out with the screw in. The security screw thus acts as security. In which case you want it as quick and easy to manually use.
So its a different definition of security. Not security vs theft, but security vs coming loose and falling off the bike.
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Mine as mentioned earlier has never been used as I lost the screw driver thingy. In saying that, I then rode for 30,000km across EuroAsia, Russia,Kaz and Kyrg, not once did it even think about falling out. I always had a lanyard system as a "just in case" anyway
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20 May 2013
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I looked at the security screw work around which is daft IMHO as the OE is designed to discourage a thief! To just have a home made bolt kind of defeats that purpose!
Just my 2 cents!
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+1 for the thumb screw. Done the thumb screw on the Zumo and that has worked well for me for years. A few seconds to take the GPS off or put it on.
If you use a ram mount with the original hand nut in the arm, then anyone can take the whole mount off by just unscrewing one nut. No tools necessary.
The torx screw in the mount just isn't practical. Can't be bothered to use the little torx driver. So, you end up either not engaging the screw in the first place or leaving the GPS on the bike when you shouldn't.
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31 Jul 2013
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Montana gurus, please help! I leave for Mongolia in a few days and am in a slight panic...
I've got a Montana. I've downloaded Colebatch's waypoints and few others into Basecamp, where they are are visible. I try to copy them onto my Montana (Device>Export to Device...), and don't seem to get any error message. And yet the waypoints don't show up on my Montana! I've tried this twice now and same result.
I've got the Russian maps, OSM Mongolia, and lots of Birdseye images for Mongolia loaded, if that makes a difference...
Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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