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Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

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Photo by Andy Miller, UK,
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Jokulsarlon, Iceland




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Old 14 Jul 2021
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OSMAND saved my trip

I did a part (half) of the Swedish TET.

I downloaded the GPX file from teh TET web page. That is a track file, to my computer.
Using Base Camp, I imported it into my Garmin.
I looked at the Garmin, and everything look perfect.
6 segments. The TET route was shown on the screen.
I also loaded the file to my phone.

When I started the first segment. I planned to use the Garmin.
I opened the route for segment 1. Looks OK.
Press GO...... And Garmin recalculate the whole route.
I had stored the file as route. Not as a track.
=> Recalculating => giving a much shorter route the the TET route.
=> Useless

If I had stored it as a track. It had been possible to use.
But only to show on the map.
Not to get a route with navigation information.

So I tried my OSMAND app.
It took the track file. And used all the points from that file as "waypoints".
And calculate a route. And the waypoints where so close, that is was the correct TET route.
Of course, there is limitation in OSMAND's number of points. And the phone's calculationg power. But it worked perfect.

Trip saved !!!
I was riding the TET for 4 days, using OSMAND only.


OSMAND has better functionality in this area than Garmin SW. !!!

Than, it does not have a userfriendly interface. And some other issues.
But I like it more and more. The more I use it and learn.

Already with the free version you can download 6 maps == 6 countries.
Using Wifi, when preparing. Than you have the map. No need for connection during the trip. As a "real" GPS.

I will not leave home without it, even I have my Garmin.
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I had that problem with the Garmin rerouting plotted routes so now I save them as tracks so it doesn't change the route I planned.

When I downloaded some TET files the routes are saved as tracks though?
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MAPS.ME had received good feedback.
So I gave it a try.
It works well if I want to go from A to B.
And I seldom travel that way. I usally want to visit specific places on the way
But I did not find any way to create way-points in MPAS.ME

Is it so that I did not understand how this works? Or it is a functionality that does not exist ?

I tried osmand app.
I found it easy to do what I wanted. And I will try it out more.
It is also possible to download GPX files.

But before I spend to much time and effort.
Is there anyone who can share experiences from osmand ?
(I am running it on Android, if there is any difference)


Hey,
I used both of them and stopped using them after a while. maps.me, as mentioned by other, is great from a to b. Good for finding restaurant and so on.
Osmand is way better for navigating but whenever they did updated the maps it took days for all the maps to get updated because after each updated map they start an initialising process of all the maps you have on your phone. Really annoying!

So, I stayed with navigator and at the moment trying Guru Maps. In my opinion they're both very similar except for the fact that only Guru Maps is displaying and following the TET tracks properly. Maybe I'm making a mistake when using Navigator!?

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Anyone else find this stuff unnecessarily complicated? I've given up with wrestling with Garmin's Windows 95 level software interfaces and much of the other backward facing DIY navigation apps that feel like you're wrestling with spaghetti trying to get them to plot a route. A lot of my family have even given up using dedicated sat navs for their day to day travel, preferring to use their phones instead. It's not that you can't do it (and I've certainly spent enough time staring at a Garmin screen on my laptop), it's just all very year 2000. It might have been the future once but that was then. There must be an easier way of doing this stuff.
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There must be an easier way of doing this stuff.
There is B-O-B but...
you need to speak to the right person
You could catch up with me in Wales for a bit of free training!
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For route planning I actually find Garmins software, particularly Mapsource very easy to use. Only frustration is having to be at a 3km zoom level to see unsurfaced roads with OSM. Basecamp takes a bit of getting the hang of but shows unsurfaced roads at a 15km zoom which makes longer distance planning easier.

The apps are great if your planning is limited to "take me" to a particular place, not so good if you want a more interesting route
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There is B-O-B but...
you need to speak to the right person
You could catch up with me in Wales for a bit of free training!
Was this going to be a UK HUBB meet seminar that got Covided off.

Either that or nobody can find their way there

At the risk of falling foul of 'da rules' tell me more ...
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For route planning I actually find Garmins software, particularly Mapsource very easy to use. Only frustration is having to be at a 3km zoom level to see unsurfaced roads with OSM. Basecamp takes a bit of getting the hang of but shows unsurfaced roads at a 15km zoom which makes longer distance planning easier.

The apps are great if your planning is limited to "take me" to a particular place, not so good if you want a more interesting route
The problem (or mine anyway) is that all of this stuff is easy once you've got the hang of it. I find Photoshop easy but mainly because I been using it professionally for 25+ yrs. There's a mile high pile of instruction books to get through if you're a newcomer. I've used Garmin's software many times - and navigated across parts of the Sahara with it - so I'm familiar with it (although I've not used it much recently). It's not that it's difficult / awkward in absolute terms, it's just unnecessarily difficult / awkward.

It's much the same with a lot of the bundled image software that comes with Japanese cameras. It works perfectly well but the interfaces are awful compared with commercial competitors so that's what everyone uses. There's obviously big money in image software (look at Adobe's turnover), not so much in remote navigation, so there's no pressure on Garmin to do much but it certainly puts me off.
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Nope no hubb seminar. I do miss those small meets like there once were in Germany.... alas time moves on.

B-O-B if you are at a loose end, I'm just off (again!) to enjoy Welsh hospitality, food, drink, markets, beaches, mountains , bbq's under the tarp and soooo much more.
Happy days and no bug tests required!
(and no 'da rules' to break!)

Head towards Liverpool, turn left and get in touch for coords :0)
No need to bring your own sheep
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