Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Equipment, Travel > Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS
Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS How to find your way - traditional map, compass and road signs, or GPS and more
Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Andy Miller, UK,
Taking a rest,
Jokulsarlon, Iceland




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 15 Nov 2013
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 163
Montana or Monterra

I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Garmin Montana 600 or whether to wait and get the Monterra.

Until this week, I had decided to wait for the Monterra to be released. I like the fact that it has both GPS and GLONASS, as I expect that would improve overall accuracy. However, the Monterra still hasn't been released and the Garmin website is still showing a 5-7 week waiting period (it has fluctuated between 3-5 and 5-7 weeks for the past couple of months). I suspect that they may push it out in time for Christmas but I'm getting more concerned about the bugs in a new release model.

I want a Montana/Monterra for my 2014 trip through Russia, Mongolia and the Stans (driving a Land Rover). I plan to use open source maps (and Walter's waypoints). Whilst the trip won't commence until April 2014, I want a unit in my hands earlier so that I can get the maps installed, etc.

Considering the likelihood of new-release bugs and the resulting firmware updates that will occur with the Monterra, I am now leaning towards buying the tried and tested Montana 600. At least I won't have to worry about bugs with the Montana - and it is retailing at $450 in the US (a $200 saving compared with the Monterra). I'm heading over to Miami next week, so I could pick one up then.

Before I make a final decision, I'd be interested in hearing the opinion of others, particularly those who already own the Montana.
__________________
2014 overland adventure to Russia and Central Asia in Land Rover Defender www.bermudarover.com
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 16 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Miami/Managua
Posts: 211
if you're gonna be in a rover, why not go for a unit with a bigger screen as opposed to a handheld unit?

i've got a mint condition gpsmap 640 with a 5.2" screen for sale that will blow away the montana.

as for the gps vs. glonass thing, i doubt hyper accuracy is that important to overland travel.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,377
personally I would wait. as far as i know, most of the bugs with any new garmin products are not show-stoppers, so I wouldn't be very concerned about going on a trip with a brand new model. probably at worst a few features might not work.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16 Nov 2013
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 163
TeeVee:

I wasn't aware of the GPSMAP 640. I've taken a look online and it looks like I'd be paying for features that I don't need. I don't need a marine chartplotter or the associated mapping. I don't need the XM radio weather updates feature.

Comparing the Montana with the 640, I see that the Montana weighs 289g versus 490g for the 640 (I've read a review that said the weight of the 640 caused it to occasionally overwhelm the suction mount). The 640 wins out on screen size but the Montana seems to take the prize for saved tracks and waypoints.

Montana takes 4,000 waypoints/favorites/locations; 200 routes; and the Track Log takes 10,000 points and 200 saved tracks.

The 640 takes 1,000 waypoints/favorites/locations; 10 routes; and the Track Log takes 10,000 points and no saved tracks.

The only aspect that I see the 640 being better than the Montana is in screen size. Maybe I'm missing something. Why do you say that the 640 will 'blow away the Montana'?
__________________
2014 overland adventure to Russia and Central Asia in Land Rover Defender www.bermudarover.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 16 Nov 2013
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 163
Thanks Motoreiter.

My concern involves both the bugs and the regular firmware updates that will likely follow the initial release. Sometimes, these updates don't work properly and I don't want to be left with a problematic unit just before my trip.

This year I did an update on a Garmin Nuvi with Europe maps. When I arrived in the UK and turned it on, there were no maps installed. I should have tested it before I left, but I'm in Bermuda so the Europe mapping wouldn't have shown up anyway. Fortunately, Nuvis are relatively inexpensive so I just bought another.

I haven't made a firm decision yet but I'm leaning towards getting the Montana.
__________________
2014 overland adventure to Russia and Central Asia in Land Rover Defender www.bermudarover.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 17 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,377
I had a similar experience once with a garmin, so now I don't do any updates for a couple of months before a trip, and check the maps etc carefully before leaving. even if you're in bermuda you should be able to check maps in europe, etc.

anyway, up to you of course, and either way have a great trip.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 17 Nov 2013
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 163
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoreiter View Post
I had a similar experience once with a garmin, so now I don't do any updates for a couple of months before a trip, and check the maps etc carefully before leaving. even if you're in bermuda you should be able to check maps in europe, etc.

anyway, up to you of course, and either way have a great trip.
OK, understood. Thanks.
__________________
2014 overland adventure to Russia and Central Asia in Land Rover Defender www.bermudarover.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 27 Nov 2013
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 163
I've just ordered one from REI. $650 with a $65 dividend rebate at the end of the year, bringing the final cost down to $585.
__________________
2014 overland adventure to Russia and Central Asia in Land Rover Defender www.bermudarover.com

Last edited by Bertrand; 27 Nov 2013 at 14:04.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 15 Dec 2013
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 36
A review of the Monterra

Garmin Monterra Review

Garry
Amazing Ride For MS | 2 Continents, 1 mission, End MS FOREVER
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help: Montana 600 in need of Mongolia maps, near tashanta Barnaul Rfothy Northern and Central Asia 9 12 Aug 2013 20:16
HELP: Smelly biker maps on to a montana 600 Rfothy Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 3 1 Jul 2013 09:23
Montana has a new stable mate- Hello MONTERRA Toyark Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 6 25 Jun 2013 03:44
Zumo or Montana EMBEE Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 26 16 Nov 2012 17:47
Advice on Maps for Garmin Montana 650 John Laverick Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 12 2 Apr 2012 11:23

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-14
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:51.