I've downloaded iTorrent PRO version for usd 2.
Then goto isohunt.com and download latest movies for free. via wifi or 3g most movies download in 30 minutes to enjoy later.

Apps for major newspapers NY Times, Guardian, Der Spiegel, Daily Mail,, Radio and TV ,, BBC CNN Al Jajira,, TED has great video presentation.

For commuication ,, Skpe, Kakao ,, OTO free international calls ,,
Porn too if you wish.

Navigation ,I've got Sygic ( Europe,Russia,Middle East, most of Asia, all of Africa and Americas for 65 Euro (On Sale Now) Australia and New Zealand 25 Euros),, Maps to go ,, Lotus ,, Google Map as well as free navigation for local ,Korea and Japan. Connects to SATT under a minute.

New Nokia 440 quid phone comes with 41MP camera.

No Garmin can do this.

..and for that, I'm eternally grateful... all I want my Satnav to do is navigate the multiple routes that I've downloaded (without an internet connection).

PS it's a Garmin, and has performed faultlessly for the past five years and about 35,000 miles..

Good for you ! Glad you re happy with Garmin,,,

New Nokia 440 quid phone comes with 41MP camera.

No Garmin can do this,,,

:confused1: I have a camera...

I'm not sure that all folks understand that phone GPS apps work without an internet connection. There is a gps receiver inside the phone and you download data to store on the device, basically the same as a GPS unit works.

One important difference in my view is that Garmin uses a data formatted so that it only works on their own devices when the data itself is already free (and often better quality) from sources such as the Open Street Map Project. In effect, Garmin benefits from crowd sourced data, but gives nothing back to the crowd. This is an outdated model for using spatial data that will eventually die.

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Some where back there in this big thread, this point has been made but it certainly bears to be reiterated.
It also goes for tablets - I am experimenting with one right now that has only wifi and no connection to the mobile phone network. The maps are downloaded to the tablet as and when you want them and have a wifi connection to hand, but they don't need a "live" connection to the internet to track your location and display it accordingly.

Again, the OP started the thread with this aspect as one of his central themes.
All of the marketing efforts of Garmin now seem to be directed toward protection of their position in the future market.
Google has also been using OSM (I understand from some media) and this has not been without some problems, for them.

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Maybe but do you know about the new Monterra coming Jo?
Specs here -
Wifi, 8 MP autofocus camera and 1080p HD video with automatic geotagging, Skype, Android with Google Play for complete customization , Bluetooth, GNSS support: GPS + GLONASS, etc etc etc
Life's a

But what's the point of it? Carry 2 items that do the same thing.

I guess Garmin would like to think that you don't have to do that, with their latest product; however, it is not a phone, funnily enough.

There's an interesting review here:-
Garmin Monterra outdoor GPS pictures and hands-on - Pocket-lint
Especially for the one attached comment:-
"This is the first decent article that I can say is reasonable in looking at the Monterra as a GPS and not as a tech toy. You are correct, the price is high for an Android device that would have cost them no more than $80 to manufacture. This device in fact I would compare to an Apple iPod but I can't see why a transflective screen, digital compass and waterproof housing adds $500. Utilising the internet and google maps etc is fine, as long as you are in the big smoke, but GPS of this nature are not for the big smoke.

Luckily the Garmin format was cracked many years ago and we have a great free vector map called OpenStreetMap (OSM) and for where you are in Europe the free OSM is no doubt affecting Garmin's map sales. The other point I note in Garmin's write up is they say their 3D MapMerge is the "ultimate mapping tool" with a unique feature when in fact TwoNav had this feature 5 years ago and not only can TwoNav utilise raster like teh Garmin, TwoNav can display vector as well. If you want unque, if you want best mapping capaibility you don't buy a Garmin, Magellan or a Delorne, you buy a TwoNav"

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I like that we get here such a list of possible solutions!

Today we can use what we want (iOS, Android, Windows) - and we will find a way to handle our navigation needs.

Currently i use an IOS based setup:

But i`m on for switching over to a Windows Surface based setup - there i have more options. Specially i can also use Android Apps on Windows - what gives me more options over all....

Surfy

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I have a smart phone with GPS, so understand what you're saying..

However, what you can't do is create multiple complex routes.. (say.. 30?) and download them to your phone, without an internet connection, unless of course things have changed recently..

I think it has. There are now so many apps that can utilize the currently available mapping.

I've never understood the obsession with navigatible routes myself.

Enough Said,,,,

Awesome set up,,, !

Every time youu change a Garmin,, you have to buy new maps. They have a software, where else ,, you can not use same map.

Apps ,, once you buy it ,, you can transfer it to as many machines as you want. You own the license clear and free. I have Sygic loaded on 4 phones.. 2 for me,, 1 for wife and the kid.