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Truly remarkable details in that program ,, I was impressed ,,
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I recently stumbled across this app that is based around the soviet military maps. For the people that head out in the backcountry a lot this is particularly interesting as often they are the only decent map types out there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ovietmaps.free
Besides this I find that most of these maps are as good as each other. My map on an iphone is having difficulties, which makes me glad I stuck with the android platform.
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Truly remarkable details in that program ,, I was impressed ,,
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Hi Joe,
"Told you!" - I had a hunch this subject would bring out a load of high quality information and views.
The soviet maps source is, in fact, the sponsor of this forum - therefore the link is showing up at the top of this page.
I am still reading, and watching, intently.
There's no rush for me.
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Hey ,,,it was a very good idea for you to suggest to start this thread,,
Discussions interesting and very proactive....
Look at the Galaxy s3, when it comes out ,, I am dying to get my hands on it ,,
Saw the Galaxy Note ,, lots of nice functions ,, just too damn big.
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Hi Joe,
"Told you!" - I had a hunch this subject would bring out a load of high quality information and views.
The soviet maps source is, in fact, the sponsor of this forum - therefore the link is showing up at the top of this page.
I am still reading, and watching, intently.
There's no rush for me. 
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my money
There is NOTHING that comes close to a ruggedised dedicated GPS unit for durability.
There is no trip I have done to date where a smart phone could have done the job ... no serious international trip.
For me, its not about software, its about durability.
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Challenge accepted.
I reckon it depends on the riding style. But even then, I'm constantly amazed on what you can get away with. As said, friends of mine mount them to their trail bikes and they don't seem to want to die. The map data, if you don't care about turn by turn, is vastly better either way.
I'm concerned about the bar vibes. Wait and see I guess.
Congrats with the record btw. Extremely well done.
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I do agree that rugged specialist units are best, but just to show my luck, my Garmin montana has died within 2 weeks of ownership and was sent to the Garmin hospital yesterday,
My iphone, I have used on the bike regularly, for 2 years, and it only had a fit once with a software update where I lost my music. The only thing that lets the smartphones down are the mounts. I got through 3 plastic iphone mounts, and that was on a road bike, on roads.
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Fern ,,
Whether the unit is water proof ,,, or built like a tank ,, I hate anything exposed on the handle ,, giving me a silhouette and a questionable mount system.
I have always used the RAM , Big Box Waterproof ,,, to hold what ever unit I am using,,padded with soft sponge lining,,power cord coming out at the bottom then sealed ,,
Gives me good protection ,, even when I go down.
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I do agree that rugged specialist units are best, but just to show my luck, my Garmin montana has died within 2 weeks of ownership and was sent to the Garmin hospital yesterday,
My iphone, I have used on the bike regularly, for 2 years, and it only had a fit once with a software update where I lost my music. The only thing that lets the smartphones down are the mounts. I got through 3 plastic iphone mounts, and that was on a road bike, on roads.
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I do agree that rugged specialist units are best, but just to show my luck, my Garmin montana has died within 2 weeks of ownership and was sent to the Garmin hospital yesterday,
My iphone, I have used on the bike regularly, for 2 years, and it only had a fit once with a software update where I lost my music. The only thing that lets the smartphones down are the mounts. I got through 3 plastic iphone mounts, and that was on a road bike, on roads.
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Fern,
Would be very interested to hear how you get on with the Garmin after sales + warranty (presumably) coverage.
This thread was started by Joe to explore the whole life cycle of software and hardware issues for smartphones Vs other GPS products (Garmin et al, although Tom tom etc are lying low right now).
Thanks for bringing up the iphone also. There has not been much in here to date about actual experience with different hard wares, and I think you are the first to mention the Apple product.
The mounts also; there seems to be some cheap products on sale, some claiming only for mounting units to cycle handlebars and others for both cycles and motorbikes.
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Hey Walter ,, welcome to thread ,,
Wonder if you count , since you ride in some freaky places,,
Tell us what make you are using ,,
As far as Garmin , the durability is a myth I am afraid ,, as mine went bunkers,, only after a month ,, USB port connection. And the pursuing horror customer service. Other testimonials below.
Our navi unit has to come in a total package ,,
Hardware ,, software ,, function ,, durability ,, dependability ,, customer service and economical sense,,
All of above is a right we must and should have as a consumer.
Whatever ,, comes after is a bonus to us ,,, And smart phones do indeed has so many
We are here to discuss the added value of the smart phones and to see whether it can live up to such a myth of a dedicated gps unit being durable.
Garmin horror stories ,,
Accidental Drop Test | POI Factory
Garmin GPS III Pilot ...horror story
https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?t=12001
Cracked Face on Forerunner 310XT | Applied Vitals
Will you do this test on your gps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtNCiBQ8lc
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There is NOTHING that comes close to a ruggedised dedicated GPS unit for durability.
There is no trip I have done to date where a smart phone could have done the job ... no serious international trip.
For me, its not about software, its about durability.
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I like that we get here such a list of possible solutions!
Today we can use what we want (iOS, Android, Windows) - and we will find a way to handle our navigation needs.
Currently i use an IOS based setup:
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Here is a writeup with videos
Ipad for Road Navigation
Ipad for Offroad Navigation (Bing Satellite & Hybrid Map)

With the Ipad it is pretty easy.
You can also use your Ipad as USB Stick and swap Files between your devices: use your Ipad as Storage
This works with any iPad with 3G and also with any iPhone. If you travel with an iPad (normal/mini) - you can use your iphone as failover device.
We had used this setup for our transafrica - and it had worked well! We had downloaded for the whole route the bing satellite hybrid imagery from Zoomlevel 3-14. Hybrid means that it is the satellite view with also the roads layer.
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But i`m on for switching over to a Windows Surface based setup - there i have more options. Specially i can also use Android Apps on Windows - what gives me more options over all....
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Awesome set up,,,
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I like that we get here such a list of possible solutions!
Today we can use what we want (iOS, Android, Windows) - and we will find a way to handle our navigation needs.
Currently i use an IOS based setup:
But i`m on for switching over to a Windows Surface based setup - there i have more options. Specially i can also use Android Apps on Windows - what gives me more options over all....
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Awesome set up,,, !
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