Baba,,
Even using simple Sygic road map ,, I've found your solution by inserting projected waypoints, enroute to my final destination. You simply add the files and the software will route you through the waypoints,, Sygic is offline gps.

Also reading ,,, following programs also allows you to plan off line
and project waypoints as you said.
PathAway GPS Outdoor Navigation
http://backcountrynavigator.com/topographical-gps/

The title of this thread, and the original subject of the discussion, is "Smart Phone vs. dedicated GPS Navigator". I've paraphrased that a little bit in an attempt to return the focus of the discussion to this topic.

In my life, I've done a lot of navigation (I'm a retired aircraft pilot who primarily worked in lesser developed countries), and I've also done a lot of navigation system development (I beta-tested Garmin GPSRs on motorcycles for 6 years from 2001 to 2007, then headed up development of a complete avionics/navigation/flight management system design for a 19 seat commuter aircraft).

I think that the key issue in this discussion should be "horses for courses". There is a huge difference in philosophy and in application between a GPS navigator and a device that will display cartographic information. The two devices do different things and serve different purposes. There is a little bit of overlap, and that overlap is growing slowly as technology advances, but fundamentally, we're talking about two different things here.

Smartphones (or tablets, same concept) can display cartography, and they can do that very well. The cartography can be raster based or vector based. Most of the open-source vector based cartography (e.g. OSM) does not contain road attributes. Road attributes include minutia such as number of lanes, lane width, time of day restrictions, turn restrictions, presence of medians, vehicle restrictions (e.g. weight or width restrictions), and so forth.

None of the above is needed if the rider (or driver) is willing to do their own pilotage (navigation) as they go along, using the smartphone and open source cartography as an aid to navigation. In lesser developed countries where there are few roads, the value of road attributes to route planning diminishes - heck, just the fact that there is a road, or track, or path there is all one needs or wants to know.

On the other hand, a dedicated GPS Navigator normally uses a proprietary (closed source) cartographic database that contains a tremendous amount of attributes per road - in some cases, up to 60 attributes per road, and often images (facsimiles) of the overhead signs along the road. When used with a road navigation engine (the proprietary software of the navigator manufacturer), the navigation guidance given can be extraordinarily powerful, not only providing turn by turn direction, but also providing real-time traffic status (and traffic avoidance), speed camera warnings, on-the-fly rerouting in case of a turn error by the driver or a detour imposed by construction, and, of course, hundreds of thousands of waypoints along the way such as gas stations, hotels, and street addresses.

I'm primarily a street rider. I have a Honda PanEuropean (not a dirt bike by anyone's measure), and in the past 12 years, I've ridden it the length and breadth of Western and Central Europe, including bits of Asia and North Africa. I would never have done this without a GPS Navigator on my motorcycle.

I plan my routes using paper maps (usually Michelin), then I create routes that I will follow using the GPS Navigator. Sometimes I create these routes on a computer and load them into the navigator, sometimes I create them using the navigator as a stand-alone device.

I then go and ride the route - and enjoy it thoroughly - because I am continually being supplied with turn-by-turn route guidance by the navigator. This leaves me free to concentrate on my riding (safety, etc.), the scenery, the culture around me, and so forth. It's very similar to flying an aircraft when the flight plan has been entered into the Flight Management System prior to engine start. You just follow the prompts, and you are assured you will fly the desired path.

For a rider on a dual-sport or dedicated dirt bike who plans to cross deserts (or maybe just ride off-road in fully developed countries), a GPS navigator that uses only proprietary road navigation databases is of little use. But, position confirmation and immediate access to cartography (most especially if the 'own ship' position is plotted on top of the cartography) is extremely important. Smartphones or tablets and open source cartography can fulfill this need very nicely.

The more complex the road environment becomes - for example, in urban areas, or even on highways in countries where the rider is not familiar with the language (or perhaps even not familiar with the script used to write the local language), the greater the value of a GPS navigator.

Likewise, the more remote the environment becomes, in areas where there are few roads and few landmarks, the greater the value of multiple sources of cartography in its various forms (topographic, street mapping, even air photo based) becomes.

I think there are darn few riders out there who would attempt to cross a desert with only a dedicated GPS navigator running a proprietary database. But, by the same token, I think there are darn few riders out there who would suggest that anyone (street or dual-sport rider) attempt to navigate to a specific location in a large city using only cartography, without turn-by-turn guidance from a powerful and purpose-specific GPS navigation engine, based on a detailed database that contains as many road attributes as possible.

In summary: There's no clear winner in this comparison. We should use whatever technology makes the most sense and is most appropriate for the kind of riding we plan to do.

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On a related matter:

SeoulJoe, you have been dominating this discussion by continually beating your drum and grinding your axe against Garmin. In post #207 above, our forum moderator Bertrand wrote (my bold):

Please, back off, and recognize that there is no "right or wrong" in this discussion. In particular, stick to the subject at hand, and don't post ad hominem responses to others.

Michael