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One possibility: multifocals.

I've had cataract surgery on one eye, and the other is pretty bad from a detached retina, so that's what works for me.

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Has anyone seen or used this device?

http://www.meetearl.com/

It seems to incorporate most everything an overlander would want in a navigation device including GPS, radio, walkie-talkie and weather forecasts.
Plus it seems to run on an androide operating system.
Seems to good to be true.
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I think we had to discuss here - how and where to travel.

When you plan to travel more abroad at sample on the silk road or crossing africa - a normal road based map would be not that helpful.

Pretty easy is a Ipad based (offline) solution:

Ipad for Road Navigation

Ipad for Offroad Navigation (Bing Satellite & Hybrid Map)




There is GPS-Device arround who can top such a setup.

Also when you had a much stronger solution with a windows based tablet - it is not easy to optain satellite Images for offline usage at sample.

With a Windows Device you have more tools for navigation, but you had to spend more time to "learn" how to do it. With the Ipad it is pretty easy.

You can also use your Ipad as USB Stick and swap Files between your devices: use your Ipad as Storage

This works with any iPad with 3G and also with any iPhone. If you travel with an iPad (normal/mini) - you can use your iphone as failover device.

We had used this setup for our transafrica - and it had worked well! We had downloaded for the whole route the bing satellite hybrid imagery from Zoomlevel 3-14. Hybrid means that it is the satellite view with also the roads layer.

Some get the cheaper non 3G iPads and use external GPS devices.. You can do that but it is not necessary. We had used the 3G Version.

Actually you can Download Google, Bing Navtec (Nokia Ovi) and many more sources...




Here you find too a short walkthrough at HuBB: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...atellite-72663

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Also check OsmAnd, seems to be one of the default app choices for OSM maps and is open source.

The free version allows you to download up to 10 regions, and it's quite user friendly.

Where I am now, the offline OSM vector map is a lot more accurate than Google maps, the only better map I have found is a country specific collaborative Garmin-compatible map.


I reckon the tablet could work fine in a 4-wheeler, I still prefer a GPS like the Garmin Montana (or the new Android one that uses the Montana hardware) for durability and ability to be used on the bike, hiking, and boating.

Another question: why a tablet? There are relatively cheap and powerful Android phones available with screens from 4.3" to 6.5" which are possibly more robust and flexible. There are probably more mounting options for the more standard sizes.
It could also provide a backup to your dedicated phone, assuming you take one. Most of the better Android chinaphones allow for 2 or more sim cards to be installed, quite useful if you are traveling in are where coverage varies by network, or where you may want one card with a data plan, and another with a call/SMS option.
You can also get apps that will allow the phone to serve as the GPS to a Bluetooth laptop or tablet.

Having said that, some of the phones I've tried have poor GPS reception, taking a long time to get a satellite lock, and also battling in mountains, forests and built up urban areas.

In that case I often use a bluetooth GPS tracker dongle/mouse instead of the onboard GPS. It seems as powerful as the dedicated GPS systems, and gets 25 to 40 hours on a charge.
It also works with my Android tablets (2.3 and 4.0) and my Windows laptop.

Another advantage with the bluetooth tracker is that it is small and easier to mount where it can pick up a good signal, letting you position the phone / tablet for optimal viewing and safety. It also helps keep the phone / tablet out of the sun, high temperature is a killer for many devices and batteries.

The tracker I am using is an older Qstarz BT1000Q , and I use Bluetooth GPS Tracker from Argotronic (IIRC) to connect it to my Android phone and tablet. That app seems the most reliable of the 3 or 4 I have tried.

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Personally, I keep the mobile phone strictly for making telephone calls and the occasional text - it's old fashioned, but I can't see me changing that for a long time, if ever.
My favourite nav device remains paper maps - again old fashioned - and I tend to prefer one device for each purpose, so I do have an old Garmin for navigation but I have become disenchanted with it I suppose; I do fully appreciate the value of waypoints and the associated accurate position fixes, but a lot of the time I don't need them - when I do, the Garmin is switched on, otherwise it tends to be off.

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The apple IPAD mini seems ideal but not keen on going down the apple route due to the lack of third party apps, although some might see that as a bonus!
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This works with any iPad with 3G and also with any iPhone.
In my short time playing around with the Android operating system Nexus it appears to do everything that the Apple products achieve, and, in general, the mapping is free. Nor do I need 3/4G network access, because there are loads of maps that work offline.

Most of my comments here apply to use on 4 wheels, although I may get around to stuffing the Nexus into the tank bag, one fine day.
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Personally, I keep the mobile phone strictly for making telephone calls and the occasional text - it's old fashioned, but I can't see me changing that for a long time, if ever.
My favourite nav device remains paper maps - again old fashioned - and I tend to prefer one device for each purpose, so I do have an old Garmin for navigation but I have become disenchanted with it I suppose; I do fully appreciate the value of waypoints and the associated accurate position fixes, but a lot of the time I don't need them - when I do, the Garmin is switched on, otherwise it tends to be off.
I guess it very much depends on where and how you travel, and what you are used to.

In the USA, I used to use paper maps extensively, especially the De Lorme atlases.

Where I am now (and the same applies to much of the 3rd world), the only easily available paper maps have very little detail, and are useless for anything other than following the highways outside of urban areas. They can be used to plan broad details of a multi-day trip, but are useless for anything else.

I could get the government topographic maps, but that demands a trip of a few days and a significant cash outlay. The downside to those maps is that they are bulky, fragile and way out of date.
That wouldn't be an issue in the 1st world, but taking the wrong route here could mean riding some rocky, broken trail into the night, and possibly getting into insurgent-controlled areas.
At least the OSM, Google and Garmin-compatible contributor electronic maps I use are occasionally updated. Carrying both the phone and the GPS also gives me options when the different maps don't agree with each other.

Mostly I travel by motorcycle, followed by bicycle and then public transportation (bus / banca / ferry). On the bikes, I don't think the phones are robust enough to withstand the conditions (very rough roads, rain, dust, very hot sun), as compared to a top end GPS like the Garmin Montana or Oregon. So, I usually store them in a tank or saddlebag and pull them out when needed.

Just a different take on things.

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In my short time playing around with the Android operating system Nexus it appears to do everything that the Apple products achieve, and, in general, the mapping is free. Nor do I need 3/4G network access, because there are loads of maps that work offline.
The App MotionX and to be able to download huge areas of Google Maps and Satellite-Imagery is absolute unique to the iOS (iPhone, iPad) for offline purpose.

There are for shure ways to use offline satellite Imagery on any OS, but nowhere it is that easy within MotionX. The App is here the key, not the brand of the hardware

But not anyone want a capable offroad navigation

Independent of the Tablet-Brand and OS there are some apps to mention here:

The Navigation with Maps.me is Openstreetmaps based and you can download sorted after country - for free. And it has routing:



Here I wrote an short review in english:
4x4tripping: Navigation for worldtrips - maps.me

For holiday purpose or an word trip the routing is ok. Quite ok. For a more professional but affordable solution I would recommend Sygic.

For shure TomTom and Navigon are better, but they cover much less of the world and if you had to buy 15 Countrys or more you have to spend a lot of bucks. Sigh covers near the whole word.

Sygic and Maps.me are available for iOS and Android. All mentioned Apps are working offline (without cell coverage or Internet).

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There are masses of apps on the market nowadays.
Such as in this recent thread which came up with another one that is new to me.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-offline-82150

The Android ones on the market increasingly tend to rely on OSM for their information and then append a "skin" to give it their own branding.
On my tablet I guess I have about 5-6 different apps loaded just to experiment with, but I haven't bothered for a while.

Most recently loaded was the app "Russian Military Maps" which claims to cover the whole world (and why wouldn't they).
The app display is instantly switchable between various mapping including RMM, OSM, Bing maps and Open Cycle Maps + a few others that I don't recall at present.
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